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KPJ isn't a winner.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ThatboyPhuong, Dec 31, 2022.

  1. DatRocketFan

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    He is getting better. But I don't think the finish product is worth it especially if it negatively impacting the team.

    Bring back harden or an actual pg and I'm confident our players will shoot better. Passing ability do influence a players ability to shoot whether u acknowledge it or not.

    If kpj is our best player we aren't winning anything anytime soon cause he's can't score enough to will us to victory or pass well enough to unlock his teammates game, hence this thread.
     
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  2. javal_lon

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    I ain't even mad at him anymore.. He seems to be the only one that brings it, whether good or bad , every night. But it's a shame that people that don't watch us gonna think his season ending 20/6/6 line means he's gonna be some kinda future star PG. You know the Lebrons, Lillards, and Shaqs of the NBA circle...
     
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  3. DatRocketFan

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    Silas believes
     
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    Silas is the face/decoy crux of the issue, while the sponsor and his hand picked GM are the ones calling shots from the Rockets high table

    The reason why the rotations are what they are is because they are tank rotations, they may as well just play all the 22 and younger players and use the others based on injuries occurring

    At least you will maximize the minutes for the rebuild phase players and lose organically with them, all that matters is they play hard and somewhat together learning the ropes

    Silas didn't trade for Wall / KPJ nor signed Wood, Stone did all of that, including hiring the fall guy Silas, who is nothing but a yes man at this point, Tilman wants a high draft pick, and by high I mean first overall selection

    Its why they are playing Gordon heavy minutes along with giving minutes to Nix Matthews and keeping Tate on the shelf because he would at least give max effort on both ends which someone like Gordon doesn't do because he has checked out, sincerely
     
  5. CHAMPBOY

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    The guy is a 4 year veteran, but he is not talented as Jalen Green
     
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    yep

    shooting the way this team does simply cannot equate to winning. Any average shooting team can put them in a hole they can never get out of. The whole team sucks at shooting and it isn’t 1 player.
     
  7. jordnnnn

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    Our team sucks but he’s been pretty good recently. What’s sometimes lost is that it’s possible for individuals to play well even if the team loses.
     
  8. Joe Willie

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    They should move KPJ to the wing and find someone who can run a team. KPJ is a good catch & shoot guy. I just don’t think PG duties are making the best use of his abilities.
     
  9. groovemachine

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    KPJ is not the problem, he’s playing hard every night he just happens to be out of position. On a playoff team he’s probably a sixth man who comes in at the first TV timeout and gets buckets ala Jamal Crawford.
     
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  10. DatRocketFan

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    Being played out of position is a problem since it effects the whole team. Kpj is a scorer he should put up buckets and hone his scoring talent instead of trying to run an offense
     
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  11. Spacemoth

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    The eye test better fits the game score than does the box score. KPJ gets his, and he makes high degree of difficulty shots at low leverage moments, or moments where you still have a sliver of hope, but realistically our win pct is between 1-5% (low). KPJ’s teammates do worse when he has a high usage rate. You simply take our wins and usually two things are happening: 1.) the shot distribution is more even across the board; and 2.) Sengun is heavily involved.

    I’m not the biggest Sengun fan because I still think his ultimate ceiling, best case scenario, raises our floor but not to anything approaching a championship contender level. A fully actuated Sengun gets you to a perennial 5-8 seed, in my opinion.
     
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    Agree about KPJ, disagree about Sengun's ceiling (with the right roster around him).
     
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  13. dobro1229

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    Well… no sh$t.

    I mean the team he’s been leading for two years has a historically bad winning record so yeah… seems obvious. He factually isn’t a winner by nearly every standard.

    Is he a bad player though? No way. I would classify him as a good nba player. Caris LaVert to DAngelo Russell… but no team led by either of those guys would be any good either. They wouldn’t be classified as winning players either as the lead guard on an nba team and primary playmaker.

    KPJ isn’t the problem but KPJ being asked to be our superstar every night is a problem and definitely has led to him being technically speaking… a losing player. Let’s hope that changes soon if someone like Jalen Green can step up and change the dynamic.
     
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  14. Mathloom

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    Come on. No one on this roster needs to prove they can lead a team to wins right now. Certainly not a player worth $15m guaranteed for 1 season. Why should he be able to do that right now?

    KPJ just needs to take the next step in his career which is to make better, faster decisions as a passer and defender by the end of this season. That would put him roughly in the territory of being the 3rd best player on a championship team at age 23 and on a superbly team-friendly contract ($15m/season with team options all of the final 3 years). His development really requires us aiming to win as much as possible because the air is just different when the front office and coaches and players all push each other to make the playoffs. Choices come under greater scrutiny, the roster competition is more fierce and you have to play well without the ball. Next season he will benefit a lot from the team starting to seek a playoff spot. Silas will also face real scrutiny for his choices for the first time.

    Jalen, Jabari and Sengun also have to do a more convincing job of generating points and assists. Once they have established themselves more loudly, things will become clearer. Green, Jabari and Sengun are highly competitive and selfless players, I don't think they will be patient very long.
     
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    Agreed. When your offense hinges on three-point spacing and your alternatives are Gordon, Mathews, Garbua, Eason, Martin, and Jabari, you are in for some long nights.
     
  16. Believe It!

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    But DD, he's just extrapolating out what he thinks of him. All fans do it. No?

    Happy New Year!
     
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  17. MystikArkitect

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    Not sure why yall are being so hard on the kid. He's clearly been stressed about his New Years plans. We also have MLK Day and Valentines Day after that followed by President's Day. KPj gonna be stressed for a little while.
     
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  18. maj21

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    That’s what I’ve been saying! We need a 3 that’s a sniper. Trade up for Gradey Dick in the draft, he’s the answer imo
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    Probably not the best game to post this after. He was easily the best player last night on the team.
     
  20. PatBev

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    KPJ looks like the best player on the team besides maybe Sengun but he has weaknesses too

    I’ll ride or die with Green & Jabari but they do not look good
     
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