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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. DatRocketFan

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    Wrong the best way to utilize Sengun's playmaking ability is to get an actual point guard.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    So the best way to utilize Sengun's playmaking ability is to ensure the ball is almost never in his hands by getting a traditional PG?

    Well, that's certainly one kind of take.

    Perhaps Sengun's next team will have one of the few remaining pure PG's so we can see how your theory works out.
     
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  3. DatRocketFan

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    An actual pg aka someone who been playing that position for years will know how to pass the ball to sengun. There's a reason why silas and kpj wanted lob threat Bruno to start, bc man isn't good enough to use sengun properly. It's not that complicated.
     
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    Well I hope you get to see that on Sengun's next team.

    As to this one, the team wants to play 5 out on offense and they want to switch everything on defense, things Sengun simply can't do. As a result, he's unlikely to be around that much longer....especially now that Mr "Get his ass out" Jabari Smith has shown up. When you have Jabari, Jalen, Tari, and KPJ that all want to play one way, the team isn't going to cater to just Sengun....even though I like him as a player.

    Do you plan on sticking around once he's gone?
     
  5. Mathloom

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    No dude, it's just one thing. The way he plays sucks for winning and unlike other 22 year olds he has all the skills right now to play the right way. He's just actively choosing this path. The biggest reason the way he plays sucks is because he chooses inefficient shots and doesn't play defense, which are both choices. Like Jabari and Sengun can't anchor a defense right now, it's not a choice, they just don't have the skills and know-how to do it. KPJ is at the end of his 4th year as an NBA player and doesn't play defense on a team he claims to be the leader of. He takes forever to decide whether to shoot or pass, and that lets the opponent's defense get perfectly set for everyone. You can't be obtuse about these things, you know that they don't show in the stats but that every analyst, announcer, fan sees it. That's a ****ed up attitude. Those are ****ed up choices. We don't have lazy players on our team, he's the only one, you wouldn't accuse a single player of being lazy on this team.

    KPJ is 22 but he's not going to play next season if he plays this way. When he understands that they used him as a pawn in the tanking game, it's going to trigger his paranoia and his issues are going to get worse. For his sake and ours, I hope he realizes it's time for step 2 of his healing process: learn how to function in relationships and teams.
     
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    Ah yes, this is what people resort to when they know they don't have a statistical argument to support a narrative they want to push. Of course, this ridiculous line would fall apart with the slightest scrutiny, but when you have nothing else to go on, I guess it's what you have to do.

    It's funny how KPJ "sucks for winning".....but the team basically can't win without him.

    If Jalen and Jabari weren't flat out terrible nearly the entire season, and KPJ didn't miss much time, the Rockets almost certainly have at least twice as many wins. Jalen is STILL one of the worst defensive players in the entire league and you'll give him a pass. Jabari was next to worthless offensively till a few weeks ago....but you'll give him a pass. Those are the reasons the Rockets have lost so many games this season. You simply can't blame that on KPJ, but I know you'll try...because narratives.
     
  7. Believe It!

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    Completely Absurd.
     
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    Let me explain it before the kpj stans. KPJ is better in the second half of the season. Considering that it is a 34 win pace.
     
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    No, it's that they got the math wrong. With Jalen and Jabari being absolutely terrible all season long, this Rockets team would be a 24 win team with KPJ playing and an 11 win team without him playing.

    Now if you had the Jabari of the past few games all season and a Jalen that was halfway decent plus KPJ, that's probably a 30+ win team easily.
     
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    2nd to last this season, dead last the other two all with kpj as the pg/head honcho. But but but he's doing so good at his job and without him we don't win.

    KPJ does not make his teammates better, this is evident by how much everybody struggles due to his lack of skillset at pg. It's not that complicated.
     
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    I bet my life if we signed anything worth calling a vet point guard off the bench like Augustine we would be easily at 25+ wins

    Our first 25 games was a brutal schedule and KPJ helped keep those games close until Stones hired tank commanders Nix & Mathew’s would step into the game. Then we would collapse, then KPJ would normally help us at least get back in the game but we kept a lot of those close

    I love our young team but let’s be real, Bari and Tari were straight air balling layups like the first 30 games + nix + Silas. So stop acting like our record is solely a reflection of a 22 year old point guard
     
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    We are basically dead last in almost every measurable team offense stat, but it's too much to blame the main guy controlling the offense.

    Kpj stans defense
    It's everybody else fault for sucking, but the guy controlling the offense/head honcho of the squad isn't to b blame.

    Ridiculous
     
  14. maj21

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    That dude is stupid as **** for that statement. No surprise coming from him
     
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    They struggle bc they can’t hit open shots that are set up by KPJ
     
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    Bro it is called tanking. Stone is doing everything he can to sandbag this team. Really KPJ been controlling the offense for like realistically a season and a half

    Shai led okc to a 22 & 24 game win season the past two years and they were tanking just like we are now. He also had the privilege of learning under cp3 for a year and they were still trash for 2 more seasons right next to us

    Shai is 24 and just now barely touching the play in games

    Y’all are trippin with y’all’s expectations
     
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    It's pretty stupid to blame KPJ for other players missing wide open shots....but that's kind of your calling card isn't it?
     
  18. DatRocketFan

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    The team is basically dead last in every measurable team offense category. The guy controlling the offense shouldnt b blame, its should b because everybody else on the team "whiffs".

    How moronic is this logic. With this logic the "pg" can never b blame for anything, kpj stans and sengun only fans basically 2 extremist group who believe their man can do no wrong.


    Silas ain't a sht coach, it his players for not hitting their shots. U wonder why folks don't use that logic bc it's dumb as fk.
     
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    The art of passing to the post is mostly gone from the NBA and certainly doesn't exist within the Rockets. Most passes to Sengun are bounce passes from the wing. When someone fronts him, they rarely try to get the ball to him.

    A good passer can take advantage of what the defense gives them. If they front Sengun, you get the ball over the top for an easy basket before the backdoor help can rotate. If Sengun has position, you get the ball to him and have someone available to cut as well as setup for open 3s. We have most of our success with the latter, but rarely take advantage of the former (hopefully I got that right too many Old Fashions tonight at my daughter's Bday party). :D
     
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    ....so since you are such a smart person, you blame one of the best offensive players on the team, arguably the best 3 point shooter on the entire roster, for guys like Smith and Green missing their shots all season and think it's "moronic" to blame the players who actually missed the shots for those players missing their shots.

    That's amazing.
     

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