KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Lol, I think we may have found common ground for the first time ever.

I just don't feel like people are being realistic or fair towards The Rockets in general not just KPJ. KPJ and Silas being the top two who people seem to love to hate. And its quite frankly pretty dumb. We could remove both from the org tomorrow and the needle doesn't move one bit for The Rockets. Why would it? Because the coach, you know the guy who is not on the floor running back on D, contesting 3's, hitting shots is no longer in the sidelines managing minutes? Yeah, I'm sure J Green becomes efficient all of a sudden and Jabari remembers how to shoot the ball. Silas may not be a great coach then again how could he be? Would Greg Popovich have this team above 10 wins? Probably not. Which then leads to KPJ, a player that was essentially out of the league until The Rockets picked him up and gave this kid a real chance to succeed.

KPJ did not come to practice one day and said I'm the point guard now. The Rockets put him in a position he does not play and threw him in the fire with a bunch of player's that can't shoot, can't hang on to the ball and sometimes can't even finish a layup. Even then, KPJ has actually improved within the last year and I can honestly say he has become a legit combo guard. I'm sure KPJ would look better passing to Jaylen Brown and Tatum but he isn't in Boston. He is in Houston, and he is possibly just as talented as anyone on the team so why does he have to settle for the development of Sengun and Green all while putting himself aside so the slightly younger fan favorite's can have big nights.

As of now we still have no clue who legitimately is our franchise player, we have a good idea of who it isn't. KPJ, Green and Sengun are all on par. It just so happens that two of those get treated differently. The other one is hated just because people need someone to blame. The Rockets are on year 2 of the rebuild, having unreasonable expectations is ridiculous. I expect The Rockets to end up with the worst record, its likely to happen. Its not because of KPJ, its because that's how these things go. Every single time. No matter the coach, no matter the point guard. Rebuilding teams aren't good. Period.

 

It could be that the efficiency of a super raw talent that is yrs away(according to your park ball evaluation) from being a NBA caliber player is quite ahead in the macro aspect

Because like I said a sucky player overall number two pick is 10ppg, not 20+ppg

Also alot of players could not get 18 shots a game based on them not being capable of getting those shots on their own, as a Garry Bird who isn't good enough to even warrant this on a 10 win team, so this would be the chance for Garry Bird to showcase that he is worthy

Nobody said it was an accomplishment, just like its not the end of all be of a young high draft pick going thru a rough patch, which seems like a new concept to you

Bball is 2nd nature, which I take into account stats with actual playing experience/eye test

Everything is based on day 1, and its based on what you do in a 5-10 yr span from that inception, not months later

But maybe one day you will become a competent park ball player, its still hope

 

wait do we still hate kjp? i need to know this so i look smart in front of my friends

 

Ironically, DD disliked Harden’s play style if I remember correctly. But now his new love boy is a homeless man’s Harden. Does that even make sense?

 

Yes. You can get back to jacking off now.

 

Playstyle and whether a player is any good are not the same thing.

KPJ is a very good NBA player no matter how much his haters hate.

DD

 

Very good nba player is pretty strong. If he was on a good team, could he even get 15 mpg? Even with him playing by far the best stretch of his career he’s still pretty inefficient, high turnover, mediocre (at best( defensive player. It’s possible he gets to the point where he can be a real starting level player and actually becomes a positive but to say he’s very good now is laughable (which you know)

 

The list of things the handful of KPJ fans can use to try and credit their guy is quickly dwindling.

So much so they're now resorting to this.

It's hilarious.

And further exemplifies how stupid they are when it comes to basketball.

 

Here's hoping season ending.

 

I don't have any words left for DD.

It's astounding just how wrong someone can be about basketball related things, considering the amount of time they spend focusing on basketball.

I've never seen someone double down on absolutely moronic and blatantly incorrect takes, more than DD.

He has a legitimate mental illness and trust me, the quicker you ignore him so you don't see his utter garbage the better.

 

Yes on a good team he would be even better.

I don't follow the ignorant masses.

DD

 

Why would he be better though? He’s bad at everything. On the rockets his stats look good because we’re tanking and because jalen has been so horrid, but for a playoff team i think he would bring nothing

 

He's currently a bottom 3 player on the worst team in the league, I'm not sure how you think that's being ahead of the game for a #2 overall pick. I mean, I get that you want to make excuses for his pathetic performance thus far, but it just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

The fact that your understanding of basketball is as simple minded as more PPG equals better kind of speaks for itself. It seems that you have that chucker mindset too....that's a VERY low BBIQ way of viewing the game. Maybe keep watching the game a bit longer and you'll learn to understand it a bit better.

Also, when you talk about players "warranting" 18 shots per game, Jalen Green doesn't "warrant" that many shots either, he's just a chucker that will chuck no matter what just like his buddy Josh Christopher. The only way to stop him from jacking up BS shots over and over again is to take him out of the game. Much like with Westbrook, if he happens to be hot in a specific game, his chucking will lead to impressive games....but since he's not a good shooter, there aren't too terribly many of them. Meaning, he's killing his team by chucking far more often than he's helping them.

Also, this has been focusing on BY FAR the best parts of his game....and it's still bad. What passes for his defense is effectively a crime against basketball.

So yeah, maybe he'll eventually become an NBA level basketball player, but thus far, he hasn't shown it.

 

He's a competent ball handler, though in a perfect world he should be the 2nd guy. He's a very good at catch and shoot 3's so he spaces the floor. He's a guy who can get his own shot pretty much whenever he wants to and he can do so at a decent enough efficiency level. He's a competent, but not great defender. He has the versatility to play 1-3.

All of those things would make him valuable to any team in the league.

 

LOL. People spewed similar crap about Wood last season, saying he wouldn’t play well for a contender, only put up stats because we were tanking, etc. Now he’s starting for the Mavs and playing great.

 

This was y’all’s scapegoat last season, the root of all of the Rockets’ problems. It’s like this board doesn’t learn.

 

Here’s to hoping you never post again.

 

It is shocking how myopic people can be.....and frankly lack the depth in thinking of any player on their team. Sometimes you have to step back and take a look at the environment and what is going on to truly get it....hard to do when as a fan you are knee deep in the day to day.....

I said Wood would be good in Dallas because he is in the perfect role for him, that is the same for any player on the Rockets now, FIT MATTERS.

KPJ is a very good player, and is developing fine......the problems with this team start on defense.....once they actually start CARING about defense will be when we notice a change in wins/losses.

What they are doing now is 100% on purpose, IMO.

DD

 

So losing by 20 isnt the big deal .. its HOW we lose by 20? LOL