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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. studogg

    studogg Member

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    not when they front and sag another defender. It's the same defense that Seattle would employ against Hakeem. Except then it was illegal.
     
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  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    See all I care about it team TO% - IE how many does the team average

    DD
     
  3. astrosrule

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    Correct, that’s why harden was a big positive. Even if he turns it over 5 times, but used half the possessions, the team turnovers will be really low. Kpj is a massive turnover over without the massive usage. He’s basically a reverse luka
     
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    Or if you have a coach who understands why creating triangles are important in basketball and in what situations they should be used.
     
  5. astrosrule

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    Just that he wasn’t ever kpj bad, except the one year he was injured and barely played.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Not recently......he is getting better as I said he would....

    DD
     
  7. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    DD only believes in box scores and totals, remember? Everything else is "made up" in his world.
     
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  8. Joe Rocket

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    Then you give it to him and he passes it to the open man while the others collapse for the offensive rebound. Its not that hard and Hakeem had guys who were artists at post entry passes.
     
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    Rockets are 30th in turnovers per game
    Rockets are 29th in turnover %

    Individual turnover %

    Nix : 27.6%
    Garuba : 20.3%
    Christopher : 17.5%
    KPJ : 17.1%
    Sengun : 15.0%
    Fernando : 14.8%
    Gordon : 14.4%
    Green : 12.7%
    Boban : 11.8%
    KMJ : 11.1%
    Eason : 10.5%
    Jabari : 10.3%
    Mathews : 7.3%
    TyTy : 2.9%

    Nix shouldn’t play anymore.
     
  10. Joe Rocket

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    Agreed, Most of my problems with KPJ stem from how Silas uses him.
     
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  11. astrosrule

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    Strong disagree. We have been winning WAY too much. I want 48 min of nix
     
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  12. DaDakota

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    I don't believe made up analytics and advanced stats tell the entire story - because at the beginning of the funnel it is a HUMAN deciding something and that is starting with a flawed premise.

    I like stats - just don't put my entire thought process into them as a final tell all solution or answer.

    DD
     
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  13. hakeem94

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    dont care about history
    dont care about the ratio as long as he successfully engages and feeds most of the players
    his ratio may not be good because the ratio doesn't include hockey assists but if he gets the ball to people who need it, in most opportune places, at most opportune times, it doesn't matter if he has 10 turnovers a game and ratio of 0.5 ...

    i would always gladly sacrifice 10 turnovers for acquiring better shots and feeding all the players who need to be fed....because the team TS , energy, rhythm and the flow will makeup for it more than it can be imagined

    now i am not saying hes that player but that should be the criterion and not the ratio...
     
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  14. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    It's pretty established at this point that Nix is straight trash. Garuba's numbers are heavily skewed due to number of possessions.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Circular arguments are such a waste of time.

    KPJ is getting better it is obvious to anyone without an agenda against him.

    GO ROCKETS !

    DD
     
  16. studogg

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    then why couldn’t we counter when Seattle did it?
     
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    Lol…. “ made up”.
     
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    His ast/to ratio has gotten worse every year he has been in the league.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    They are - every single one of them has a weighted algorithm giving points for one thing more so than others - and the initial number that goes in the funnel is defined by a human.

    There are some that are simple.....etc......but the majority of the advanced statistics are flawed...they are like PER

    DD
     
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    So has Sengun's.

    He was a terrible 2.6 assists to 2.0 turnovers last season, this season he's 2.5 assists to 2.1 turnovers. We should probably cut him, right?
     
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