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Kobe's accuser tells her story.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by The Real Shady, Oct 9, 2003.

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  1. Buck88

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    If you're doing it in the pooper, it most certainly can!
     
  2. DaDakota

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    If she had other seman in her underwear, and the first person that saw her after she came out of the room said she looked ok....

    I think the prosecution has very little case.

    DD
     
  3. JeffB

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    Associated Press

    EAGLE, Colo. -- Kobe Bryant's accuser showed up for her rape exam wearing underpants containing another man's sperm, a startling discovery that defense lawyers called "compelling evidence" the NBA star is innocent.

    But Bryant's preliminary hearing ended Wednesday with prosecutors telling a judge there was "uncontradicted" evidence that the Los Angeles Lakers guard raped the 19-year-old woman at a mountain resort.

    "He held her by the back of the neck with his hand during sexual intercourse," prosecutor Greg Chrittenden said. "He lifted up her skirt. She said 'no.' He pulled down her underpants and she said 'no.' He penetrated her from behind and she cried."

    Judge Frederick Gannett said he hoped to rule by Monday whether Bryant will have to stand trial on a sexual assault charge that could send him to prison for life.

    Gannett only has to find there is probable cause to believe Bryant raped the woman, something defense attorney Pamela Mackey told the judge prosecutors failed to prove because the woman told her story through a sheriff's detective.

    "She is not worthy of your belief," Mackey said.

    Eagle County District Attorney Mark Hurlbert said, however, he was confident the judge would send the case to trial.

    "No prosecutor puts on their whole case at preliminary hearing," he said. "In this case you saw kind of a sanitized version."

    If the two-day preliminary hearing wasn't the entire prosecution case, it still contained graphic details about an encounter that began with the woman excited to meet the basketball superstar, escalated into consensual kissing and hugging, and ended with sex across the back of a chair.

    Prosecutors tried to portray Bryant as an arrogant athlete who held the woman down and raped her, concerned only that she might talk about the encounter.

    Six days after prosecutors revealed details of the alleged attack, it was the defense's turn to question the lead detective in the case about what happened the night of June 30 at the resort where she worked.

    When it was the defense's turn to question the lead detective in the case, Mackey tried to poke holes in the woman's story, raise doubts about whether she told Bryant ``no'' and show she had sex with someone else two days before the alleged assault June 30.

    "This is an extremely thin case based mostly on hearsay," Mackey said.

    Mackey wasted no time getting Detective Doug Winters to say that the yellow underwear the woman wore to her rape exam at a nearby hospital the next day contained sperm from another man, along with Caucasian pubic hair.

    The 25-year-old Bryant, who is black, contends he had consensual sex with the woman.

    Winters said the woman told him she had consensual sex with another man on June 27 or June 28 and used a condom, backing earlier defense suggestions she was sexually active before her encounter with Bryant.

    Winters also said two pairs of panties from the woman were tested -- one from the night of June 30, the other being the one she wore to a hospital for an exam the next day.

    The latter pair contained blood and semen, Winters said.

    "The accuser arrived at the hospital wearing panties with someone else's semen and sperm in them, not that of Mr. Bryant, correct?" Mackey asked.

    "That's correct," Winters responded.

    Mackey suggested injuries found during the woman's exam could have come from having repeated sex, a contention she first made in court last week.

    The defense contends the tests on the underpants provide Bryant with "compelling evidence of innocence."

    Stan Goldman, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, said the argument might be more of a public relations move.

    "The defense may be spinning this more for the public than the court," he said. "It's impressive, but its negative public relations value for the prosecution is more significant than its legal value."

    Bryant sat stoically with his hands folded watching his attorney tear apart the prosecution's version of the case. Occasionally, he leaned over and talked to his other lawyer, Hal Haddon.

    Mackey, who was subdued while questioning Winters, also managed to introduce something prosecutors didn't talk about last week -- a statement by the night auditor at the hotel who was the first person the accuser saw when she left Bryant's room.

    The night auditor sent police a letter saying she saw the woman as she came back to the front desk at the Cordillera Lodge & Spa.

    "What the night auditor says in her letter is the accuser did not look or sound as if there had been any problem," Mackey said, asking Winters "Correct?"

    "Yes," Winters responded.

    Winters also acknowledged the woman didn't tell him she told Bryant "no" when he interviewed her the day after the alleged rape.

    "I asked the accuser why she never told Mr. Bryant 'no,' " Winters wrote in his report.

    Last week, however, Winters testified the victim told him she told Bryant "no" repeatedly, and that Bryant even forced her to turn around and face him and say it at one point.

    It was not clear if that came from a later interview with the woman.

    Some of the testimony -- mostly concerning statements Bryant gave police -- was given behind closed doors because the issue of whether they are admissible has yet to be decided. That led to some courtroom exchanges that didn't always make sense to the public and media who crowded the small courtroom.

    "What you get to see in connection with the open hearing may appear to be slightly schizophrenic," Gannett warned.

    Some legal experts said the evidence of the woman's previous sexual partners and her admission she was excited to meet Bryant makes the prosecution's case appear weak.

    Eagle attorney Jim Fahrenholtz called the hearing "a disaster for the prosecution."

    Most, though, said they expected the judge to order a trial for Bryant, which would probably not take place until next summer, at the earliest.

    "It will be pretty hard for this judge to say you don't have enough non-hearsay evidence," former Denver prosecutor Craig Silverman said.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1638553
     
  4. cheshire

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    Sad but probably true. Hopefully the NBA has got the moral conscience and courage to ban this b*atch for life. :mad: :mad:

    I'm surpise that the normally outspoken former Charles Barkley has not said a pip. Don't tell me he's scared of Bryant too.
     
  5. DCkid

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    Hmmm...so the pair she was wearing two days before she met Kobe contained blood, but the pair she was wearing the night of the alleged rape didn't.

    Things appear to be looking good for Kobe.
     
  6. JuanValdez

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    Why would they ban him if he was found not guilty? Besides it being unscrupulous to deny someone employment for crimes he's acquited of, it is illegal and a soft pitch to the Players' Association to knock out of the park. There is no way the NBAPA would allow the league to do that. Even so, it isn't the league's job to dispense justice, but the State's. Is it really the moral thing to do for the NBA to go on a vigilante binge, attempting to punish players for crimes that, whether they happened or not, certainly were not committed against the league?
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I'd just like to point out how everyone was ready to hang Kobe when the prosecution presented their side, now everyone thinks Kobe is going to get off. Why don't we just all wait to see how this plays out.
     
  8. Another Brother

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    What do you expect him to say?
     

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