Considering only one person has given their opinion on the matter, and it looks like they said I was right. I for some reason haven't seen a single post on here backing up your claims.......and yet again you bring up 'perception' and 'reality' when in reality, people seem to be siding with me, not you. I'm lost as to how you're struggling with this concept.
You're comparing the Celtics in their prime versus the Mavs without Tyson Chandler and Dirk was not as focused as he was this season. It was KG and Perkins versus Dirk and Erika Dampier. If Kobe was the one facing the Mavs at the time you can be sure he would average more than 55%. I'm not sure why we're even having this conversation. Dwade had a total of two finals appearances, and both of those he had in his prime. Kobe has had 7+ appearances, and he's had them from when he was still a young player to now when he's past his prime. Just for the sheer number of finals appearances I give it to Kobe, but if you just look at it Kobe right now as an old man is still comparable to Wade, Wade when he's 32 probably won't even reach the finals.
Kobe had Ray Allen/Tony Allen holding him compared to a 38 yr old Jason Kidd holding Wade the entire time. When you factor in the defenses with the closeness of the performances its hard not to give the advantage to Kobe. You can't hold Kobe playing a 7th game against him when Wade couldn't find a way to get his team to a 7th one. How do we know Wade doesn't have a worse game 7 than Kobe did? [/QUOTE], and Wade being better in Game 4 wasn't very close. There is a major difference between a guard shooting 45% and 65%.[/QUOTE] Kobe shot better from behind the arc and the ft line so that's why I say its close. If Wade had shot 90% from the line that game he would probably have a 2nd trophy.
Even more reason for you to be confident and take the bet. Yet..... Again, if you don't want to bet then just be about your opinion and move on. I have issued a challenge. Either be a man and accept it or move on. But don't not accept the challenge and then continue making your snide comments. If you are truly that confident then we can easily start a poll and see who most people agree with. Most people aren't even in this thread (not even in the top 10 for page views).
Actually I'm not. I have already agreed that Wade never faced a defense as good as some of the defenses that Kobe faced in the Finals. Kobe faced some harder defenses in some of his Finals trips. I agree. Not in ALL of his Finals trips, and he never had a MJ like Finals like Wade did in 06. That's just trying to justify why Wade has almost as many great Finals games as Kobe.
We don't. And I guess Kobe is the only reason LA got a Game 7, as opposed to other players stepping up that series (since LeBron couldn't). We don't know how Wade would have done in Game 7. But we do know that Kobe played like garbage in it and it brought his numbers for that series down. By the way, Wade seemed to do just fine with Ray Allen/Tony Allen holding him that same postseason (33, 6, 7 on 57%). I just looked at the boxscore and realized Kobe shot 54% on 11 threes from behind the arc, so you are correct.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTKxxsDuDas Game 5. Game Winning FT's by Wade. Miami up 3-2 Where's the foul?
As much as wade attacked the paint that series, there should be no way he got 20+ ft's in finals games. Like Phil Jackson said, you can't even touch him. There's a reason why ppl say that Wade get those phantom fouls. You can't deny that. The only players that got more FT's in playoffs than him are probably Shaq and Howard - and we know why. Whatever though. this is going nowhere. you can hate on kobe all you want. but at the end of the day, he has 5 rings out of 7 finals. we'll see how many dwade have by the end of his career with lebron james by his side. Probably not 6, not 7, maybe 8. :grin:
Devin Harris fouled him. There were images of it all over the net at the time. The foul was clear as day. Now the contreversy part of it was how did the ref who blew the whistle see that foul, but he was fouled. Google "Harris fouls Wade".
Of course it's going no where when folks keep creating arguments. Saying Wade has around as many great Finals games as Kobe isn't hating on Kobe. It's a true statement. It amazes me how highlighting one players great play is hating on another player.
Meh 2006 was fixed. All Wade had to do was look at the rim and he ends up at the line. Inflated numbers. Overrated.
I know that both players went into game 6 at home down a game just losing the last two on the road and one player put up pretty good numbers while the other had his worst game of the series. I'm not saying Kobe was the only reason they won game 6 but he was the best player on the court that night which isn't something Wade can say when his team was against the ropes. Two completely different game plans. Against the 2010 Heat the Celtics were willing to let Wade get his and make sure nobody else did.
No, you lost. You lost credibility when you tried to measure the finals performance based on what benefited your argument. Per 36? Fair? According to whom? And the # of FMVP also?
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=207234 Eat it kid, time to stop thinking you're some badass who knows anything about basketball. As of right now it's 14-0 for me. Time to stop being a little girl and be a man and admit you don't know anything about basketball. Here's a helpful hint son, research some basketball before thinking your opinion means anything.
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=207234 It seems you lost son. Facts are a hard thing to get by huh?
Kobe, in his prime, is better than Wade in his prime. Even declining, Kobe isn't a whole lot worse than Wade.
Funny enough, the poll was posted several hours before icehouse's comment about me not accepting his 'challenge' and posting a poll to see what others think. Reading fail.
Egh, can't really say that. Because Kobe's team was on the ropes in Game 3 and about to go down 2-1 (with Boston having homecourt) and Fisher saved that ass. Kobe had a horrible game. Same with Game 7, and how can you not argue that his team was against the ropes that game? The main difference between those two series is other Lakers stepped up. Other Heat players, mainly LeBron, didn't. I agree that it's close if you discount the 7th game. If you want to argue well at least Kobe got to a 7th game then I can't disagree. They weren't willing to let Wade just get his. He got the brunt of the attention and his scrub teammates were the ones left open.
Um, how about you edit your poll to specifically ask which team defense would you prefer, the Bulls or the Pistons? That's so laughable.
