But when the rest of your team isn't hitting shots, can you really blame it on Tmac? If I remember correctly, during that 1st Jazz series, Tmac shot 39%, but Houston as a team shot under 40 as well. Blame Tmac, sure, but even with Tmac shooting badly the rest of the team should've been able to pick up some slack. If someone else other than Tmac can hit a shot during parts of that series, we are out of the first round. And thats the other thing, say what you want about that series, but when the chips were down and it was win or go home, Tmac put up a 40 point game, and his teammates gave us ****. Tmac isn't in the clear as far as playoff performance goes, but you can't not blame guys like Battier, Hayes, Rafer, Head, Yao, etc for not showing up.
Yeah Kobe is better than T-Mac and better than like 400 other players in the league. What's your point?
Tmac was even better than Kobe in playoffs, rebounds and assists, he is a playoff hero. And his scores are also perfect...
We all know Kobe is the better player becasue Tracy has lost a step. But in a 7 game series I'll take a healthy Tracy over Kobe anyday. In 04-05 Tracy played at a very high level he did all he could do that series.
Why do you guys like using Rocket heroes in a disrespectful manner? I bet you never saw Horry play in the early 90s. I would love to have that guy back. If its the 4th quarter in a playoff game, you can bet yourself Horry is the one who will get a key block shot or rebound or steal and obviously the one who's not afraid to shoot the game winner. ANd the old Horry was athletic too. Horry maybe not be the superior talent as Tmac and Kobe, however he and Kobe have the same mentality. And it's not the 'hey feel sorry for me' attitude. Don't worry Horry, us true fans remember you!
You have to be kidding me. How the hell could you blame him for the Dallas series? He was the best player on the court and maybe even in the playoffs he took his game to a level we may never see again, but yet you still blame him thats crazy.
Do David Robinson Fans randomly make these threads in the Spurs Forum? Hakeem vs Robinson PLAYOFF Averages David Robinson, he played more minutes than Hakeem in Game 2 of 1995 series David Robinson he better than Dream!
I dont judge a player by wheater he past 1st round or not, just only his stats, can you deny Tmac is a good player? Many of us would say Tmac never past one serize, but I also disagree that Tmac will never past 1st round.
Well what about the fact that before Bynum and Gasol the Lakers were a lottery team? And the season after that they were eliminated in the first round? How does that fit into your "great players make their team better" paradigm? The fact of the matter is that Tracy Mcgrady took a vastly inferior Yao-less Rox team to the playoffs, while Kobe Bryant took a Lakers squad that already had Lamar Odom and Phil freakin' Jackson to lottery land. Does this mean that Kobe is worse than Tmac? No! What it does mean is that Tmac is a great player for being able to do so much for this team, and the fact that people are still calling him soft or girly or whatever is beyond ridiculous. If you don't know that much then I have nothing else to say to you
Oh man, I am not asking YM+TMac to win championship, just get passed the freaking first round. Is that asking too much? Particularly 2 season ago, when we have the homecourt advantage, and TMac saw the opportunity and couldn't resist "It's on me". And now 3rd best player is critical all of sudden? They underachieved, TMac choked when the series was on the line, simple as that.
If you cared to check, Lakers had major injury that season, Kobe missed 20 games, Odom missed 20 games. It's just like Rox 3 season ago. When you are a borderline playoff team and you are plagued by injury, you won't make it. Nobody expected Lakers to win those years. That's not the case for Rox. From day 1 TMac joined Rox, they were expected to be deep in playoff. You have best center in the league, one of the best guards in the league, and you couldn't pass first round? WTF I don't care what you can do with or without help in regular season. It's playoff that matters, if you have homecourt advantage, you are expected to win. Kobe did that most of the time, TMac didn't.
did i say that? I'm not the one going around saying that Tmac is better than Kobe. The Tmac fans are not saying cause they believe it, they are saying because of jealousy.
Again, I have never seen Kobe get past the first round when he didn't have a stacked team. He had a 3-1 lead on Phoenix and they lost. How is that not choking? He quit in Game 7. Lamar Odom played better that postseason than Yao Ming played against Utah. But continue to ignore these points again and again and again..... Kobe is a better player, but he has never done jack shiznit (as far as playoff success) when he wasn't on a team that had top 5 talent. FACT.
If I recall, he had a 40 points 10+ assists and rebounds game in that game 7, and also had a 40 point game in game 6 against the Jazz this past season. So... I don't follow your logic.
Last season T-Mac missed 16 games and Yao missed 27. T-Mac still led the team to a top seed, with players like Mutombo, Alston, Battier, Brooks (rookie), Landry (rookie), Scola (rookie), etc. The year before that T-Mac missed 11 games and Yao missed 34, yet T-Mac still led the team to the playoffs. And that team had freaking Chuck Hayes as a starter. Who the hell thought the Rockets were gonna win? Please show me some evidence about the Rockets being favored to win against the Mavs or Jazz. I'll wait patiently...... Yeah, most of the time...that always seems to conicide with him having a stacked team.
I didnt make my opinion about who is better between Tracy and Kobe, I just say by the stats, view the stats, I cant deny Tracy played very well in the playoffs.
