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Kobe under fire from use of homophobic slur towards ref

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by s2kboy16, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. Gay4Battier

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    clippy is such a ***
     
  2. clippy

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    Gay4Battier: clippy is such a ***

    Self loath much?
     
  3. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    But thats off the court. We talking about his actions on the court.
     
  4. clippy

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    Off court behavior shows character too. I'm just saying, it's not suprising that Kobe goes around calling people faggots given his history of behavior (both on and off court). The guy is just a POS.
     
  5. nolimitnp

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    Am I the only one who didn't see a foul?!
     
  6. durvasa

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    At least he recognizes he was wrong to say what he did.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6354233

    [rquoter]Bryant was already having flashbacks of his days at Lower Merion High School as he sat courtside at Power Balance Pavilion four hours before tipoff. He had just apologized for uttering a gay slur at a referee the night before and was thinking back to old classmates who had been called the same derogatory term at school.

    "It's been a tough day," Bryant said. "For me it's about the bigger message. I made a mistake in terms of what I said but it's also the responsibility it carries with it. I don't want kids to think that's it OK or cool to call kids that or tease them because of that. I don't stand for that. I never have. I've been in so many altercations in middle school and in high school protecting kids from that. I certainly won't be a part of enhancing that and the feeling that it's OK. I just won't."[/rquoter]
     
  7. WhoMikeJames

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    This is so stupid. f***** doesn't have to be a gay slur. It's like saying douchebag.
     
  8. durvasa

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    What is the origin of the word and how did it come to be associated with douchebag?
     
  9. flamingdts

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    That is the problem.

    A lot of people associate "gay" and "***" with anything negative. If they dislike something they call it "gay".

    The process of associating the term "gay" and "***" with anything negative is precisely the reason why people are upset, and they have every reason to.
     
  10. Roggit

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    It's like calling someone a r****d. Nobody is making fun of actual "mentally challenged" individuals; nevertheless, being fuggin' r****ded is an undesirable disadvantage. Common sense. Accept it.

    Likewise, calling someone a f***** is not intended as a put down to gays. But obviously it's an insult to the alleged f*****, because you're basically calling out his manhood. (And yes, I'm implying that liking/pursuing women is a pretty essential part of manhood. Once again: common sense, people. Deal with it.) It's similar to calling someone a vagina -- while somehow managing to not express any contempt and/or disparagement toward either vaginae or their owners & operators (viz. females).

    Being r****ded "ain't right"; and neither is being gay. Still, that doesn't necessarily mean anyone's taking a cruel cheap shot at entire groups of unfortunate people whenever he drops the "rutard"/"fagg" bomb.

    Of course, none of this matters, since whether Kobe really offended anyone or not isn't anywhere near the true issue here. The issue is: leftists' latest pet PC-agenda ("gay rights") has to impose itself on our entire culture until everyone's too afraid to defy it for fear of self-image destruction. (E.g.: "Anti-gay folks are the biggest closet-gays!" or "Anyone who opposes gay marriage has an irrational psychological complex called 'homophobia', meaning he's just afraid of homosexuality", etc. as nauseam.) This is a purely political/cultural movement, not even mostly pushed by gay people, which is merely attempting to flaunt its social power to scare off its primary opponent (namely, the common sense of any human being who didn't grow up brainwashed into kowtowing to political correctness).
     
  11. clippy

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    Nice speech, but the problem is that derogatory words derived from a specific group (eg, "f*****", "n*gger", "r****d") are in fact offensive to that group, whether directed towards them or not, because it is a backhanded way of saying "there is something wrong with this group" (or else we wouldn't have made a slur about it).

    I just can't believe that a 30-something like Kobe (or the many 20-30 somethings on this board) are so immature that they have to go around calling each other faggots to feel better about themselves.
     
  12. smasstastic

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    This might be you - you know who you are...

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  13. Roggit

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    '******' is a bad word because it suggests there's something inherently negative in being black. There isn't. It's just a race or skin color, so the intended insult is entirely unfounded. 'f*****' and 'r****d' are based on the fact that being gay and being r****ded are both disadvantaged, suboptimal states. I'm sure lots of ya'll disagree, which means the argument would have to be about whether it's truly undesirable to be gay or r****ded. Most people, left to their common sense, would recognize both as clearly negative. (The first in terms of ethics and biological/social/mental fitness; the second only in terms of the latter, to be precise.)

    Do you sincerely believe that Kobe said it to boost his self-esteem, fragile as it apparently is? Like... seriously?
     
  14. OmegaSupreme

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  15. clippy

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    You could make the same argument for anyone who isn't a non-white male, since those are "optimal" states (at least in the US). The main reason it is "undesirable" to be gay is due to the oppression people face living a different lifestyle.

    No, I just think he's really immature.
     
  16. Roggit

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    No. Oppression is hardly the main reason. Both a gay and a r****d have innate dispositions which are directly contrary to the natural order of things. A r****d's brain is defective; something has gone wrong with his cognitive equipment. A properly functioning human brain is not r****ded.

    Same thing with homosexuality: a human's sexuality has gone perversely wrong when it is so disposed to defy an appropriately human sexuality (i.e., attraction to the opposite sex leading to procreation). Homosexuality is a biological absurdity which conflicts with the natural order, and anyone with common sense can see that. The only purpose to gay sex could be merely hedonistic pleasure-seeking. In terms of a proper human sexuality, as according to basic biology, homosexuality is r****ded.

    Being non-white is very obviously not contrary to any natural order. Your analogy is flawed. Gay-advocates need to stop comparing "gay rights" to the civil rights movement of blacks. It's an egregious disrespect to black people. Race is not on the same level as sexual orientation/practice.
     
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    stupid butt hurt (pun intended) pansies going around getting offended and making everything politically correct. get over it.
     
  18. Sym0™

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    To be fair, F*ggot actually means 'bundle of sticks' last time I checked the dictionary. So it was a slur, but not a homophobic slur.
     
  19. dback816

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    You cannot seriously this blind to your own hypocrisy :confused:
     
  20. Corrosion

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    I dont like Kobe ..... But I respect his right to the freedom of speech.

    Call'em like you see'em. I'll be damned if its politically correct.

    If you aint you , you aint nobody.
     

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