I seriously doubt it unless another team is involved. Trade Kobe for TMac makes no sense to the Lakers. Anything Kobe couldn't do TMac won't be able to do it.
o really? u don't think tmac will make odom a better player? u don't think the rest of the team knows they'll get the ball when they're open and will try harder? it's simple. i play ball. if i'm involved, i try harder. if i'm not, i'm not.
Honestly, I bet the Lakers would be better with T-Mac. One thing that T-Mac does better than Kobe is making his teammates better. T-Mac is easily the better team player than Kobe. If I had it my way, I wouldn't do this trade.
For all of Kobe's ballhogging and McGrady's unselfishness, Kobe's career assist per game average is within .1 of McGrady's, and there is only a small difference in assist rate (15.3 for Kobe, 16.2 for McGrady). The main difference is that Kobe is a jackass and has issues with his teammates. But this apparently isn't reflected at all by the stats.
passing? making his team better better? NOT traveling on the last play 40 feet away from the basket? (Lakers game last season) Not being a big mouth and driving teammates away? not publicly bashing the organization that has took his crap for the longest time? Not claiming that his teammate went after his ugly fiancee? and finally, wait for it, Not raping anyone? maybe it's time for you to start watching some basketball man...
if kobe was here for tmac i guarantee a championship in the future. i also guarantee passing the 1st round this season
ok, gilbert arenas avg 6 assists last yr, is he just as good of a passer as tmac? marbury has an avg of 8 ASSISTS for his career, is he a great passer? watch the game. stats are for people who don't watch the game
vehemently seconded /me wants to know if Pued is the Irc Zookeeper, does that make him the IRC Babysitter?
in scoring yes. what he has done as the main guy? he has 2 scoring titles as the main guy. tracy did that. he has not gotten out of the first round as the main guy. tracy does that too really, how so? winning w/ shaq puts kobe on that other level b/c u consider kobe a "winner"
I can't believe who's the better player between Kobe and TMac is still being discussed. Kobe is considered the best player in the league along with Tim Duncan. Being a homer is one thing, living in the dream is another
It's a matter of position played. Gilbert and Marbury play PG, a position in most offenses used to initiate the offense and distribute the ball. McGrady and Kobe play SG/SF, typically a scoring position. Honestly, if Mike James were 6'5" and played SG, nobody would be angry at him right now for the game he put up yesterday night. McGrady is a great passer for an SG/SF; same with Kobe. Gilbert is an average passer for PG and Marbury is a good passer for a PG. When we use our eyes we typically compare within positions so Gilbert comes off as an average passer and McGrady comes off as a great passer. Doesn't mean that Gilbert or Marbury are necessarily worse passers than McGrady simply because they look that way. In fact Gilbert and Stephon both have higher assist rates than McGrady. Stats are a way to make true assessments when your eyes deceive you, as they do in this case.
if u watch the games, u seriously think gilbert is remotely close to tracy in terms of passing. i mean even seeing him on that level? and marbury?? then why do some of his former teammates complain that he doesn't pass?
no one is denying kobe is the better player. but is the gap that big that some of u make it seem like tmac is a scrub. didn't tmac put up 30, 5, 10 on him while kobe put up 53? and that's on a BAD game for tracy. so really, is the gap that big? and i predit this year tmac will outplay kobe. last yr was an adjustment yr coming back from injury for tmac.
maybe as the season goes on and the lakers see tmac putting up 27-28, 6, 6 and his back seems fine, the lakers will pull the trigger. i don't think it's that they don't want tmac the player, b/c i honestly think they would think they would be better w/ tmac. but the back is something they can't just take a risk on.
Odom is the kind of player that grates on Kobe and PJ because so often he does stuff that just makes you think his brain is missing. His heart and brain trail his talent by a mile. He is important to them because he's the 2nd most talented player on the team. IMO, Luke Walton is more important than Odom.
did u see the suns seris last yr? he avg 20 and 11. and YET he still took around 10-11 shots. kobe stunk it up in 2 of the games and still wouldn't pass (4th quarter of game 1 anybody???) odom was cruising, dominating his part, and does not see the ball
As I said McGrady is a great passer for an SG/SF. You think of him in terms of an SG/SF, so you think he's a great passer. If he played PG like Gilbert, we'd get people who think that he's not distributing enough (hell there's people like that anyway, but there would be a lot more). Conversely, you think of Gilbert in terms of point guards and say, "wow this guy is a ballhog", while if he were two inches taller and played SG you'd say, "hey this guy passes plenty for a sweet shooting quick SG". If you watch, you'll see guys make a behind the back pass or a nifty pass in traffic and say "ooh, that's a great passer." But in the end the main factor is not how flashy or cool looking the passes are, it's how many of them are converted to baskets. That's why the stats "assist" and "assist ratio" were invented, and why stats are needed to provide a reasonably objective way of drawing conclusions.
