Off the topic But DAMN doublehh03 you have to have the record for the most post for a rookie member.. 3,956? Thats averaging 16.5 post a day since Feb 1st'..
Oh you are a known Yao hater. So are you now trying to balance it out a little bit to hate on Shaq too? Or are you just trying to make it not so obvious that you are a Yao-only-hater so you decided to say something reactionary about Tmac too? One way or the other, you are a moron.
Oh you are a known Yao hater. So are you now trying to balance it out a little bit to hate on Tmac too? Or are you just trying to make it not so obvious that you are a Yao-only-hater so you decided to say something reactionary about Tmac too? One way or the other, you are a moron.
oh so kobe does not have a coach w/ 9 rings? so phil can't motivate his players like JVG can? kobe had odom. he had walton.
My 2 cents: Do we want the BEST player on out team or a player that BEST FITS our style and chemistry? This debate sounds like the Steve Nash debate. He won the MVP but he is clearly NOT the best player in the league or even the best player on his team but he clearly is the MOST VALUABLE to his team. Now I argue that McGrady is in the same predicament as Nash. He might be more valuable to his team but not necessarily the best player on the team. Now the question: Would you trade Nash for Kobe? If so, then you should also be more willing to trade McGrady for Kobe. For the record, I would trade Nash for Kobe and so I would also trade McGrady for Kobe. My thinking is that for all the MVPs that Nash has won, he still doesn't have a ring to show for it. To this fan, FINALS MVP >>>> REGULAR SEASON MVP.
has kobe won a finals MVP? i dont think the suns would even consider the lakeres' offer of kobe if the lakers want nash. kobe wouldn't fit into that system AT ALL.
They were both hurt a lot last year. And they both suck. Kobe doesn't have yao. He doesn't have Battier. Sure, our other players sucked, but the Lakers sucked even more. As for Phil, he's a terrible motivator. He makes fun of his players. It's actually pretty funny. His championship rings are enough motivation as is.
it amazes me how peoples hatred for a player would fall into the reasoning of a trade.....Kobe is better than Tmac and anyone that doesn't believe that is a. a kobe hater b. a tmac nut hugger c. a loyal rockets fan who would hate to see tmac go this deal won't happen, because of tmac's back, but you better believe (although I've never been a "big" kobe fan) that I would be ALL for this trade if possible.....I love tmac, but every year we're praying to at least get out of the 1st round....you get Kobe and you're automatically a title contender...................
Why do people keep saying Kobe is the best player in the league? Did they forget about Tim Duncan? I think Kobe has a better killer instinct than T-Mac, but is worse at getting everyone else involved or just being a good teammate in general. I guess it depends on which one you think is more important. I'll go with the latter. Kobe has accomplished the same thing as T-Mac when not playing next to another top 5 player...nothing. They both need significant help to win as most guards/swingmen do (even MJ).
Kobe on the Suns instead of Nash would be a disaster for that team. Nash makes that team go. He has made the career of Stoudemire, Marion, and the others. Kobe may come in and average 35 points but the team wouldnt be anywhere near as good.
What has Kobe done in the playoffs that is so clutch. Name one truly memorable moment that led to a series win. Shaq was the finals MVP all three times. Horry hit big shots, but I dont remember a Jordan type moment in the playoffs for Kobe. Yes he hit the buzzer beater against the Suns a couple years ago, but then couldnt close them out despite being up 3-1. You flame Tmac for being good in regular season games but not clutch. Then you call Kobe a championship player, yet lately he hasnt won anything. Tmac has talent this year and a realistic chance to do well. Even with last year, I dont think he has ever been favored to win in the playoffs. Other then one year (Cassell and Sprewell), KG has been a playoff failure as well, yet no on blasts him for being 1 for 8 or whatever it is in getting past the first round.
the 50+ pt games. tmac was VERY much like kobe in orlando w/ the hype and stuff. i mean he played for orlando and in 02-03, orlando had like 20 national TV games w/ that scrubby team. it's flashy. it's exciting. i mean, he hasnt made any of his teammates better one single bit. people say he's clutch but ever since shaq left, he has had one of the worst fg% in the last 3 mins of a game out of any player in the L (melo w/ the best and tmac in the middle of the pack).
HECK NOOOO now if we had t-mac and kobe on one team that would be good i say Luther Head, John Lucas, Bonzi Wells, Jackie Butler+future draft pick=Kobe Bryant
odom sucks. some of your comments baffle me. you do know odom avg 19, 11, 5 in his yr w/ the heat and made that team better as wade and others caught on. he avg 20 and 14 v. the suns last yr and only got 20 shots ONE DAMN TIME. why? b/c kobe was busy jacking up 25-30 shots. kobe does not make his teammates better. i mean, the suns couldn't guard odom AT ALL in the playoffs and he only got over 20 shots ONCE. walton is a SMART player. that comment proves you absolutely knows NOTHING about basketball. phil jackson states walton has one of the highest IQ in the game. he's like the shane battier version on offense that he does the small things offensively (the right passes, make the open shots...) that battier does on defense. and yes they both suck. notice how the lakers GOT WORSE without those 2 than they were without kobe. phil is a terrible motivator? i thought kobe has the best killer instinct in the L. shouldn't he motivate his players? oh yea, nobody listens. his growls and snarls are for show b/c nobody follows his lead either on the lakers.
Agree. Odom and Walton are really good players, but damn not in LA. Their tactic is easy. Just passe the ball to Bryant and be happy. And if he gets double team he will just kick out to an open shooter. That's all. Bryant doesn't make his teammates better, cause he thinks about himself only. He knows he can do what he can cause Jackson let him do it. He cares about his stats. Damn it would be really interestin to see Kobe on one team with good players around and see if he would change his game. For example it would be just interestin' to see how we would do with Gordon, Wallace and the other players. Right now I think he doesn't know basketball is a team sport
i still remember kobe struggling MIGHTILY in a few games in the first 2 championship runs. lemme pull up some games to show that kobe DID NOT play well all the damn time (like ppl expect tmac on here) and that lakers team CAN STILL WIN. why? b/c shaq. we don't have shaq. tmac does what kobe does mostly, but we don't have shaq. i'll post games where kobe sucked and they still won. **i couldn't get the stats for their first championship run but his playoff stats that yr was 22, 5, 5 (and that's it). shaq was 31, 14, 3. 4/29 in 01: 9-23 for 22 pts he had a poor shooting night (won by 13) 6/6 in 01: 7-22 for 16 pts (won by 5) 6/13 in 01: 6-13 for 19 pts (won by 14) 4/25: 5-21 for 19 pts (won by 7) 6/5: 6-16 for 22 pts (won by 5) notice how kobe can score 19-20 pts in a playoff game and that team can still win. we cannot do that WHEN TMAC DOES THAT. hell even when tmac put up 29 and 13, WE LOSE.
kobe would change his game for a while or so but he wouldn't like it. when his game was maturing, he stuck it out w/ shaq and let shaq got the shine. but after a few yrs and kobe thought his skills had developed to where he should be the man, he didn't want to share it w/ shaq. now that he clearly thinks he's the GOAT w/ all the hype, he'll change his game for a few months just to appease his new teammates but that'll change.
Maybe. And than Chicago would love to trade Kobe again. They want a championship. Kobe probably also wants it but he want to do it with 35 PPG and no asist. I hate his selfish. He can get 2 defenders, even 3 on him and he still keeps shootin. That's why media loves Kobe. He plays alone, without his temmates and then every sport, NBA pages will say :"Kobe is great but he doesn't get enough help from his temmates".
