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Kobe to Houston? Mentioned by Steven A. Smith

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Title99, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. vince123

    vince123 Member

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    would you take kobe over yao? its not about who is the best player its about who we like and don't.i personally think that we don't need kobe to win the title.true kobe is a great player and the rockets should take him over yao or t-mac because he is the best player in the league.with that said yes i prefer t-mac to kobe and i prefer yao to kobe.
     
  2. Yetti

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    What makes you think that T Mc is better than Yao?
    Last season Yao was the Rocket's top scorer and rebounder and is already being touted as a possible MVP for the upcoming season. :p
     
  3. nokidding

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    You mean Kobe?

    Kobe is the BEST player in the league. He is better than everybody, including Yao.

    And you get Bynum, the future best center. Who needs slow-ass Yao? :D
     
  4. EGYPT

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    SA was the first one to announce Kobe's wanting a trade from LA, so I do not have a doubt that his information is from a good source.
     
  5. jasonemilio

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    Just in case anyone argues against this, remember that Kobe was up 3-1 on the SUNS.....he bombed.

    ???What?????
    what happened to the 81 points, 0 assist, 5 turnovers?
     
  6. Tfor3

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    english please :mad:
     
  7. Downtown Sniper

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    Kobe is NOT a better leader - a better player, on nights - yes. But definately NOT a better leader.

    Throughout this entire discussion the only memory that's in my mind is of the day when T-Mac is defending Kobe who is trying to back him down on the baseline in Orlando and Kobe goes for the spin & fade away jumper and McGrady read it all the way and swats it.

    I loathe Kobe. The way he carries himself on the basketball court goes beyond confidence it's just outright cocky (agreed he does deserve to be able to do that some times with the way he plays) and i would hate nothing more than to see him on the Rockets - although i can't agree with seeing Dirk Nowitzki on the Rockets is any easier.

    This team has been built to support Yao and Tracy - not to support Kobe, Kobe and Yao. I do not know either personally but i think it's safe to say that Yao and Tracy love playing with each other and i think it would be a major letdown from the management's side if this was ever to eventuate because the amount of hard work these players have put into fighting for a championship with EACH OTHER is too much.

    They are preparing to go to war so to speak with each other and it's true to say having #24 on the wing instead of #1 for Ming's kickout will be dreadful.

    Kobe is the better player when T-Mac is injured - but T-Mac is the better player for THIS TEAM.

    And that is what is should come down to.
     
  8. professorjay

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    Totally agree. You could argue that Kobe wasn't the leader when the Lakers won all those championships. It was more like Shaq was in the driver's seat, and Kobe was in his lap and Shaq pretended to let him steer the wheel.

    Now imagine that picture in your mind. Now imagine they're nude. Disturbing, huh? What's my point now? I have no idea.
     
  9. Almu

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    I would do this deal faster than any possible measurement of time and space that exists in the universe!!!

    Then, we won't have to worry about any hesitation during close playoff games. no shying away from the limelight.

    As a matter of fact, if Kobe becomes a Houston Rocket I would buy everyone on this board a ticket to his first home game!

    As us kids use to say in 1994..."My Word Is Bon!"
     
  10. Sooner423

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    I guess we can stop speculating on this.

    http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2007/10/kobe_talk_inspires_the_rockets_1.html

    October 25, 2007

    Kobe talk inspires the Rockets to talk about not talking

    With speculation getting entirely out of hand, Rockets GM Daryl Morey sought to go on the record, say it clearly and put a stop to it.

    Morey e-mailed over a statement tonight:

    "As a general rule, we don't discuss trade rumors. However, to prevent speculation, I can say we have had no discussions with the Lakers regarding Kobe Bryant. Our only focus regarding the Lakers is preparing for the season opener October 30th."


    There you have it.

    Clearly the Rockets are going after Lamar Odom.

    Hey, let Morey play the Grinch for awhile. It's gotten old around here.

    I have been reminded, however, that people don't want bad news and many considered my answers to Kobe questions to be bad news. The lure of sports is that there is always hope. They don't want some killjoy to take that away.

    Besides, in sports, things do change unpredictably. Kobe could come in, smack around Jim Buss and Jerry could order him out of town before sundown. Better keep that Bob Sura contract handy.

    The Rockets did the right thing trying to squelch the unwarranted gossip. McGrady has been around too long to get caught up in such things, but let it fester too often and people are human. It has gotten to Shawn Marion to the point he asked to be traded so he won't have to keep hearing that he might be. In general, GMs hate the fantasy rumors because they get blamed for not making deals that were never an option. It's too soon for Morey to have faced that, but it will happen to him.

    More than all that, the Rockets might like the subject to be changed back to the season that opens on Tuesday. In addition to the coincidence of their season starting against Kobe and the Lakers, they might have mentioned the opener to remind that they will be playing real games next week and that Kobe plays for another team.

    A few weeks ago, all the offseason additions and the way the Rockets have taken to Rick Adelman's style had people talking about the Rockets again, something we wondered about when they flamed out in the first round again last spring. On Thursday, there was a whole lot of Kobe chatter going on.

    Mostly, it has been harmless, sometimes funny. But it is probably just as well that he at least change the subject. I know won't miss it, though I imagine I won't have a chance since it will probably start again by Saturday.


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    As for the deals the Rockets are trying to do, there has been tons of talk about trades to trim the roster. Of course, most of the league is trying to do the same thing so it's always a longshot.

    You might have caught a response I gave to a blog question about the Miami Heat deal for Ricky Davis scuttling the chances of a Kirk Snyder trade. The Heat were to some degree interested in Snyder for the role they now have Davis to fill. I don't know how they were going to do it, but probably by using another team the Rockets might have been able deal Snyder without taking back a comparable salary. That fell through late last week because of the probability of the Davis deal.

    If the Rockets could have done it, they might have been able to keep Mike Harris. It's hard to blame the Rockets for not keeping Harris under those circumstances. He would have cost in excess of $1.2 million in salary and luxury taxes, and moved them $770,000 further from getting under the tax threshold, potentially costing them much, much more. That's a lot to spend to improve the inactive list.

    They would still like to move salary, but at this point if there is a trade, it seems likely to be of one of the guys they would release, anyway. Either way, unless there is a deal, the Rockets are unlikely to make cuts until Monday morning.

    Besides the certain moves, to release Sura and John Lucas III, the Rockets will have to make two other cuts, likely from among Justin Reed, Jackie Butler, Steve Novak and Snyder. Reed doesn't seem to fit, especially with Carl Landry looking like a good project at the position. As for Butler or Novak, I don't buy the argument that Butler is insurance if Yao Ming and/or Dikembe Mutombo get hurt. You can find a big guy to fill in. And if you need more than that, Butler's not the solution. Not yet, anyway.

    Better to determine which guy can help you more someday. Butler is very big and very young, just 22 years old. Novak has that shooting stroke, which never hurts. It took Boki Nachbar (a very different athlete) until his fifth season to shoot 40 percent, but there are those now arguing that the Rockets should have kept him around and waited. I don't remember anyone saying that three years ago, but it seems worth giving Novak another year.
     
  11. doublehh03

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    um he's responsible for 90% of our offense last year. we went as he went. JVG put everything and the kitchen on tmac's out of shape self last yr.

    he had more responsibilities than anyone one the team last yr and it wasn't even close.
     
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    Channel 11 Sports guy just said Morey himself has said he has NOT contacted the Lakers about Kobe at all.
     
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    http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2007/10/kobe_talk_inspires_the_rockets_1.html

     
  14. doublehh03

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    b/c he knows a healthy tmac (even w/ a balky back but if he FEELS healthy), he is the best player in the world and unselfish to boot.

    houston has no thoughts of entertaining tmac for kobe. they know at tmac's best, they saw what they saw in the dallas series.

    the fans on here love the 50+ point scoring outbursts kobe put on, but tmac could easily do that if he can jack up 30 shots a game at times.
     
  15. doublehh03

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    what has bynum done for u to say that? he's been trash. if kobe disses u publicly, u must be trash.

    dude has no D, no O, can't even dunk a ball, dude's a bum.
     
  16. yaoluv

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    no

    for the record kobe averages 2 more shots and only 1 less assist per game than tmac

    kobe's 50 pt games are generally extremely efficient

    here are the ones from last year

    4/15 - 50 pts 72% shooting
    4/12 - 50 pts 52% shooting
    3/30 - 53 pts 43% shooting
    3/23 - 50 pts 55% shooting
    3/22 - 60 pts 54% shooting
    3/18 - 50 pts 49% shooting
    3/16 - 65 pts 59% shooting
    12/29 - 58 pts 49% shooting
    12/15 - 52 pts 45% shooting
    11/30 - 53 pts 73% shooting
     
  17. abc2007

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    It seems Kobe will be a bull soon!
     
  18. riverage

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    kobe+bynum=Yao+T-mac, how about this deal?
     
  19. doublehh03

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    you're talking about CAREER stats for the shots and assists. kobe's career high in shots is 49 i believe or 46.

    again, i'm not saying kobe is not great b/c if u read my posts, i do admit he's better than tmac the last 2 YEARS, but he doesn't have to jack up 30 shots on that team. he just forces himself to.
     
  20. AggieDentist

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    did anybody else notice that, in the past two days, the following people got 'injured:'

    - Kobe Bryant (wrist)
    - Josh Howard (wrist)
    - Ben Wallace (ankle)
    - Kirk Hinrich (ankle)
    - Tyrus Thomas (foot)
    - Joakim Noah (ankle)

    methinks that is awfully curious.
     

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