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Kobe to be Charged!

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by RocketBurrito, Jul 18, 2003.

  1. UTweezer

    UTweezer Member

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    oh...you must be an one of those "insiders"
     
  2. SwoLy-D

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    Where'd you pick this up? Man, am I missing the point, or what...? Who reported this stuff you're saying? At least let us know where you get it from... put up a URL or something...
     
  3. MacBeth

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    I see what your saying...but it's also a defense of any non-habitual criminal, including a murderer. Philosophically I can totally argue your side of this...hell, a Buddhist would say he is no longer the person he was when he comitted the crime...but if he is guilty the lion's share of my sympathy in this case goes to the person who's life was ruined by someone else's mistake, rhather than the inceptor himself. I have particularly little sypmathy for men much ( it would be assumed) larger and stronger than a woman using that advantage to do what they want with her body...on the other hand I'm one of the few who thinks Mike Tyson should have been acquitted, based on the trial evidence.
     
  4. The Real Shady

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    Does anyone else see a possible OJ situation coming from this. Kobe will go out and get the best defense team money can buy to get him off on some technicality. The trial will be broadcast and the evidence will come out for the entire public to see. I think this trial will distroy Kobe Bryant forever in the NBA.
     
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  5. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    That's an interesting analogy to OJ Simpson. Remember, his image was squeaky clean before the murders as well. Even though he was found not guilty in the criminal trial (guilty in the civil suit, however), it goes without saying that his image has been supremely sullied.
     
  6. hooi

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    I'm betting that Kobe can stay out of jail ala OJ but I doubt he will be able to keep his endorsement contracts.

    Imagine the jokes such as 7 out of 10 rapists prefer to drink Sprite?

    Or how about wear these shoes cause they will help to keep ahead of the law?

    Either way, Kobe will be poorer for it. Does anyone know whether NBA contracts can be canceled if the player does some serious crime?
     
  7. NYKRule

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    You people are too PC, you believe teenage women. I don't know if I've ever met a more volatile age group....16-19 year old girls are nuts. Absolutely nuts. The only thing they have against him is the physical evidence, they don't have proof of forced sex (sorry but I can rip my shirt and cut up my fingers right now), without witnesses it's basically worthless in my mind.

    In other news, before I leave this thread because I will be blasted for my hard-lined minority views:

    Portland (AP) - A spokesman for the Portland Trailblazers has confirmed that the team has contacted the Lakers about the availability of All-Star Kobe Bryant, charged today with one count of rape in Colorado.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    Hey, just to clarify, I'm not trying to defend Kobe at all. I just find it sad that such a talented person possibly ruined his own life. He had so much going for him, it makes me feel bad for him. It's just my gut feeling towards the situation. It's the feeling that kid had when he said "Say it ain't so, Joe." You just don't want to believe it.

    I think at minimum, we can see it as a tragedy if all his talent and hard work can go to waste.

    I also have little sympathy for rapists, especially when you look at how the lives of women can be ruined long after the crime.
     
  9. El_Conquistador

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    It's only a matter of time before race is introduced in this case. This is classic racial stereotyping -- black man rapes/assaults white woman. Interestingly, the Eagle County area is overwhelmingly white. This does not bode well for Kobe's defense with regard to jury selection.

    -- this was the latest on FoxNews' coverage
     
  10. ymc

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    This joke is neat btw! :p
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    I can think of a more volatile group- men in their early 20's.
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The only reason your views are in the minority is because you are the only person claiming to know he is innocent either way, none of know and no matter what happens, will ever truly no. And if teenage girls are so volatile why is Kobe even involved with her.
     
  13. The Real Shady

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    :D That's pretty good.
     
  14. slcrocket

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    This entire thing is really sad.
    It's kind of sad when one of your sports heroes saddeningly reminds us all that he is human, and makes mistakes. This in NO WAY condones what he did--Whether it was forced or not, this guy cheated on his wife, and NOBODY can justify that. It's wrong. That is a horribly sad incident.
    That all being said, I hope that it wasn't forced. That's the only way to make this situation sadder.
    What do you think his wife is going through right now? If it WASN'T forced, I hope that they can salvage their marriage. I don't know how I'd react if I was placed in a similar situation.
    Of course, if I was married to Kobe Bryant, I'd have other problems to work out...:D
    Sad. Totally ruins my day.
     
  15. pchan

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    You have a very interesting point. I don't know is having sex with someone other than one's spouse is morally wrong neither, but I agree that cover-ups are certainly wrong.

    In my opinions, everyone would commit some types of sin, and I feel that it is almost inevitable. (maybe because we live in a world that tends to inscrease in disorder? I don't know) Evilness is not the sin itself, but the refusal to acknowledge it. The manifestation of this refusal to face one's sins would be persistent and subtle lies.
     
  16. UTweezer

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    here are statements from Kobe and his wife
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92357,00.html

    Kobe
    "I am innocent of the charges filed today. I did not assault the woman who is accusing me. I made the mistake of adultery. I have to answer to my wife and my God for my actions that night and I pray that both will forgive me. Nothing that happened June 30th was against the will of the woman who now falsely accuses me. These false allegations have hurt my family. I will fight against these allegations with all my strength. My wife is the strongest person I know. She is willing to stand by me despite my mistake. That means everything to me. I have so much to live for. And by that I do not mean the contracts, or the money, or the fame. I mean my family. I will fight for them. I appreciate all those who have supported me. Thank you for believing in me. My family and I are going to need your support and prayers now more than ever."

    Vanessa
    "I know that my husband has made a mistake — the mistake of adultery. He and I will have to deal with that within our marriage, and we will do so. He is not a criminal. I know that he did not commit a crime, he did not assault anyone. He is a loving and kind husband and father. I believe in his innocence. Because I know him to be innocent, I will stand by him and we will face this together. I will give him all the strength and support he needs to face these false accusations. I will not let him face these accusations alone. I know Kobe better than anyone. The great person you see on the court and in the public is a far greater person off the court."
     
  17. MacBeth

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    Uh...I don't think that being hard lined, or in the minority will be the basis for most of the blasts...I would suggest that any of the following would take a higher billing:

    *Conclusively jJudging an individual's honesty based on the demographic into which they fall, without knowing anything else.

    * Questionable, to say the least, demographic profiling to begin with.

    * Speakng of things as factual which are at best your opinion.

    * Making insulting and frankly irrational statments about a demographic based on, it is assumed, your opinion of your experience.

    * Dismissal of any possible physical evidence of non-consentual sex. This is the strongest of your arguments, and I'd have a lot more compassion for it were it not found amidst the drudge that makes up the rest of your post. I do see that much of what we consider 'evidence' of non-consentual sex can be either fabricated, or the result of consentual sex itself.
     
  18. Xenogears

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    Nike better drop his ass fast!! Can't have Yao endorse a company who supports rapists!:mad:
     
  19. UTweezer

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    another one of those "insiders"...they're everywhere!
     
  20. Achebe

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    The man's going to go to jail over bloody fingernails and torn clothing? I end up with bloody fingernails and torn clothing just saying hello to my best friends wives. Sex is far more aggressive than that. Hell, my wife and I are like tasmanian devils. Last time we went at it, I ended up with a broken collar bone and she ended up with a black eye.

    I don't see what the fuss is about. That girl is money grubbing, plain as day.
     

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