You know good and well Kobe doesnt deserve the MVP. If you want to homer and make a case for him, you can make an ever better case for Lebron. Stop overrating him
Kobe is the MVP You would think the 81 point game would've made him the leading candidate, but people keep harping on about Chauncey Billups Pistons would still be good without him I doubt the Lakers would have 20 wins without Kobe
Just curious, when did Michael Jordan win his first MVP and how did Bulls do in that regular season.?
i dunno if you're being sarcastic or not, but it was in 1988 and the bulls' record was 50-32 and lost in the eastern conf semis
Relax, I wasn't being sarcastic. I was curious and too lazy to look up myself. Well, I think Kobe should be an candidate. But I would put him at least behind Lebron James and Steve Nash. Lebron just lead his team to their 1st playoff in a long time. Nash lead his team to be a top 3 team in the west without Amare. Though Kobe is on his way of leading his team back to playoff, but PJ is back and I am sure he is also an important factor for them going to playoff.
I disagree. Duncan is the engine that makes the Spurs go. He is the anchor of their defense, which is among the best in the league and has been since he got there. He is the most reliable part of their offense. If you take Duncan off of that team, it would not be nearly as good as it is now. If you take off Tony Parker or Manu, then they can have someone like Finley step in and they will continue to roll. His numbers are down because he has been injured and he doesn't play the minutes that a guy like Kobe or LeBron does. Even so, he is averaging 11 boards and 2 blocks, provides a dominant post presence, and is a solid passer out of the double team. Parker and especially Ginobili are overrated, and would not look nearly as good sans Duncan. Of the three guys I would even consider, Duncan is the only one that plays defense, so I made him #1, while Dirk and Nash are just leading their teams to the #2 and #3 spots in the West gets them #2 and #3 in my voting. I just wouldn't consider giving the MVP to someone on a mediocre team (like LeBron) or a bad team (like Kobe). To be the most valuable, I think your team needs to have a lot of value.
I'm agreeing with some of you who say Lebron should get it. I wouldn't have a problem with that. But i'd be more open to that idea if Lebron hit clutch game winning shots the way Kobe does, Lebron isn't quite there yet IMO.
TMac picked up a 41 wins team without losing anyone significant and made 2-3 more wins into it. Not really impressive. Armstrong and M.Miller were 6th man and ROY. So they do have a better cast than Kobe did. Plus, they played in east, they said a lot by itself. Lakers are really terrible team without Kobe, they'll fight Bobcats for the final spot.
From Elias (after Miami game): Would love to see what Kobe is shooting in a similar scenario. The way he chucks he ridiculous difficult shots, I doubt it's over 40%.
thats fine, but i think when spurs fans and commentators talk about tony parker as the team MVP and possible MVP candidate (they are high when they say that) then i think you need to re-evaluate the value of duncan.
Kobe avg. 9.7 points a game in 4th quarter. Definitely the most in the last 2 decades and it's against double/triple team.
Maybe Phil Jackson should win the coach of the year award by letting Kobe take whatever shots he wants.
Scoring efficiency is key. How many shots his taking in the fourth quarters to get those points? And if he's shooting so much despite double/triple teams, that probably doesn't speak well for his team play.
I don't know, I can see both sides of the Duncan argument. Its really uncanny how a guy like Tony Parker has stepped this year in a down year for Duncan. It can be argued that the Spurs right now could be very good with Duncan because of parker, finley, and ginobli, but it can still be argued that those guys are role players and duncan's mere presence is making them better. its not as simple though in the past though, when duncan put up great numbers. without the great numbers, it becomes a chicken and egg argument. and therefore, as much as I don't like him either, you have to look at dirk nowitzki. because he has good role players, but he is putting up great numbers, and he lost the guy who became mvp last season. I totally agree with francis 4 prez also that dantoni isn't getting nearly the credit he deserves for their success. he has put nash in a great system for him. something an offensive minded donn nelson didn't even do.
I think when you are relying on Spurs fans and the guys who coined the name Jesus Parker to make your argument you are conceding victory.
