i admit that i would j*zz in my pants if he chose the rockets. and all hipster rockets fans would j*zz in their girl/skinny jeans. but i and they would also acknowledge that the way he left cleveland was weak and would be most embarrassed if he was introduced at the toyota center like this spectacle... <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZJgoZ1Vs5_E?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZJgoZ1Vs5_E?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> luke walton and richard jefferson on a boat think this is totally gay.
"Brian Cook, who would win between you and Kobe 1 on 1"? Brian Cook- "Oh me for sure, easy.... Thats what I do, 1 on 1"
If there were a 1-on-1 tournament, I bet we'd see a bunch of guys who aren't superstars who would do surprisingly well. People like pre-vaseline Stephon Marbury. Bonzi, during his Sactown years. Plus, I'd guess the sharpshooters like Ray Allen or Redd would be pretty good if it's make it take it since they'd just go on a tear from the arc. Ron Artest would be pretty good because of his all around game. Plus, his ugly, but bulldozer-type offensive game would be pretty effective.
LOLwut? Do you even know what the handchecking rules are? It prevents people from roughing up the ball carrier. Take that away and let's see Kobe won't be able to drive or take a jumper anymore. And LBJ won't even need to use his shaky jumper. He'll just bump Kobe out of the way and dunk on his ass. That's kinda easy when you're 50+ pounds heavire than the other dude. Of course Kobe's will to win will probably automatically make him the winner in the end. Because we all know the will to win and mental strength are the only things that matter. Physics, logic, everything else fades in comparison to one's will to win and mental strength....
One on one, I think Kobe vs DWade vs Durant is a better matchup than Lebron. You can tell that all 3 guys have that fire in them. Lebron just doesn't have that competitiveness and is much better suited at a team sport rather than 1 on 1.
We are talking about 1 on 1 basketball that's why there is no need to factor in teamates. As far as tangibles go, this topic is only relevant because we are talking about two of the greatest basketball players. So, we are assuming they are going to have all the tangibles if not most, sometimes what makes the difference are the intangibles. Therefore, in this case will to win is relevant and a deciding factor. :grin:
so in every offensive statistical category, lebron beats kobe except for ft shooting and yet people think kobe would own lebron in a 1-on-1 game? unbelievable. durant? roy? unbelievable.
you realize the only statistic that matters in a 1-on-1 streetball game is whether or not you win right?
If the Rockets can't win it all then I really hope the Heat do, just so I can laugh my ass off at all these haters eating crow. I wonder if this is what message boards would have looked like in the mid to late 80's before Jordan got enough supporting help to win.
"fixed".....and this is the problem with comparing stats within a team, with each player on a different team, playing different teams, several times, over 82 games...doesnt directly translate to a one on one matchup without the influence of team conditions.
yes. so tell me how in the world can kobe stop lebron from getting his? w/ no refs, unless kobe flops, lebron can just back him down or muscle past him to the rim with ease. the only type of shots kobe can get off v. lebron are contested jumpshot. at this stage, there is no way kobe can beat lebron off the dribble on a consistent basis. if you take a young prime motivated shaq, he may beat hakeem. in streetball, shaq is just too strong. but here in this case, shaq can't come out all the time to challenge hakeem's J so it's hard for me to say who would win. FYI: shaq did get his in that series (a 21 year old shaq that is).
I realize shaq got his...but in a team setting. Did he overpower Dream and just back him down every time in the post? No. Was he definitely stronger than Dream? Yeah. So strength alone isn't winning any matchups. It'll probably get lebron consistently closer to the rim, but not where he'd just lay the ball up. He'd still have to come up with some moves in the post...moves he hasn't done excessively and perfected because he's not using them to that frequency in the NBA.
Kobe's team was a 42-45 wins team going against a 55 wins team, they were lucky to make playoff and they had 3 starters that didn't deserve to start even for lottery teams. Kobe had to pull out 4 straight 50+ points games after 7 consecutive losses to secure a spot in playoff, did LeBron ever do something close to that? LeBron's team was 60+ wins team, decent quality roles, a few over the hill but decent scoring threats. HCA, big help from refs (just check the FT differential). Yet they lost to underdog every year. Sure talents matter, but do you really want to argue about talents? It's not like you or any BSPN experts predicted Cavs would get beat in east.
Kobe made teammates better, Lebron made teammates worse. The stats strongly support that, is that what you are trying to argue about? Put LeBron in Kobe's shoes he's not going to get the number Kobe gets. With 2 bigmen clogging the lane, LeBron has to rely his sub-40% midrange jumpers to make a living. It's like a more athletic Artest trying to make play and it's not even funny.
eff the post. in 1-on-1, you get the ball at he 3pt line. lebron is arguably the fastest and strongest perimeter player in the L. you mean to tell me he can't overpower kobe bryant? again, i take chances w/ lebron taking easier shots than kobe's fadeaways.
WITH shaq, lebron got his best fg% of his career. without any big men in 04-05, kobe shot the worse of his career. kobe needs the big men to keep his fg% at 45%.
He got his best fg% of his career by getting a few better shooters on the perimeter. He's lost when Shaq's playing. Did you really watch the game? And Kobe shot the worse in his career because he had a significant injury that year, and he played many games with it.
