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Kobe: "I'd beat LeBron 1 on 1"

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by TheMacster, Oct 2, 2010.

  1. t_mac1

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    kobe should guard lebron more then. lebron guards kobe when they play each other.
     
  2. Shaud

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    Lol @ mentioning pick and pop when discussing a one on one game. Who is he going to receive the pass from? Himself?
     
  3. leebigez

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    In college after practice, we used to play knock out to 10. Basically 5 players playing one on one. 3pters were worth 2. The thing is, there was always a fresh guy. If you scored, the defender went back in line and the next guy came out. rebounds had to be cleared to top of the key unless it was an offensive rebound. If they did this for all star with say 8 guys, you would see some great battles
     
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    My thoughts exactly? I was just thinking this, and at the same time was like, what the hell am I thinking?!

    There was a time where I couldn't stand the thought of Kobe. I guess For me it seems as though there is much less hype with Kobe. Lebron seems to want the spotlight for different reasons, Kobe just wants to cut your heart out with a butter knife on the court. That I respect.
     
  5. Spacemoth

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    I think Kobe's right on this one though. In 1-on-1 with no fouls called, you can stop Lebron by pushing him out of the paint everytime he tries to get in. Relegate him to the outside shot and Kobe's got him easily, with his array of midrange moves Kobe makes the midgame look easier than his inside game.

    If you don't think someone weaker (Kobe) can't take someone stronger and faster (James) out of the paint, you must not have played enough 1-on-1 ball. This is what it ALWAYS devolves to when I play, ESPECIALLY when my guy is chubby and slow and keep up with me, he just hand fouls me out of the lane every time I drive. Sure you get a couple breakaway buckets but in a first-to-5 or 7 setting fatigue ain't gonna make a dent in those NBA players.

    And yes, at this point, Durant or Wade would be the ones to give Kobe a run for his money. Durant had some absolutely sick moves in the FIBAs, I'm interested in seeing if he soon overshadows Kobe with his skillset because he's already got more potential with his frame and speed.
     
  6. MadMax

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    You can't get them to compete in the Slam Dunk Tournament...how in the world would you get them to do this?

    These guys' egos are way too big to allow themselves to POSSIBLY getting beaten one-on-one in front of the world...where they can't pass the buck to lesser teammates.

    Kobe and LeBron both come off a bit douchey....but as much as I dislike him, I can respect Kobe's competitiveness hella more than LeBron's. I don't think there's anything Kobe cares about more than winning....
     
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  7. STR8Thugg

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    Really? im not so sure myself... i think all this Lebron hate is clouding peoples minds... Lebron is bigger, faster, more athletic (better defender), and he could just drive kobe to the rack every time. im pretty sure kobe would get his ass handed to him, although he is a better offensive player, it would be tough for him to get great looks with Lebron in his face...
     
  8. rock4ever

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    No he doesnt. Thats a ridiculous lie you just manifested in thin air
     
  9. jevjnd

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    That's what I and a few others keep saying. It's not like Lebron's going to get tired either, that argument is ridiculous. He's fast, strong, and he has ridiculous endurance. He's the kind of guy that can go 48 if he needs to. Of course I know that Bryant is a better jump shooter, but he won't be able to do anything at the rim, which is why James will only need to guard his jump shot. At that point, he's not going to get clean looks. James on the other hand, can muscle his way to the basket and get close enough to get his own rebounds if he needs to. It's not like he handles the ball poorly either. It's just too much for Bryant, he'd be overwhelmed because James would be such a man among boys out there; it just wouldn't be fair. Of course, put Gasol and company behind him and he can talk like he's a big man, but his thin frame wouldn't be enough. Of course I know Bryant's not a twig, but he's not the man-child that James is at all. James has a very good skill-set to top it off.

     
  10. Kojirou

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    In the post? LeDouche has skill?
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
     
  11. rock4ever

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    Kobe closer to Lebron? Have you not watched the last few years when Lebron choked in the playoffs? He's younger and will have better regular season stats, but dont let that fool you. Lebron is "closer" to Kobe
     
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    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=192799

    Efficiency-wise, LeBron beats Kobe on isolations and post ups. But he doesn't post up nearly as frequently as Kobe -- meaning many of his post ups probably only come when there is a real size disadvantage. Kobe is pretty strong and aggressive as a defender, so LeBron probably wouldn't be so comfortable posting him up. At the same token, Kobe won't find it so easy to post up against a player with LeBron's strength and length and leaping ability.

    The advantage Kobe has is his jump shot, as many people already said. In a 1-on-1 battle, LeBron's strategy will be to drive hard at the basket, get into the paint, and use his physicality to muscle in the baskets. Kobe would be a threat from all over the court.

    I think it would be competitive, actually. I can't say one would flat out beat the other.
     
  13. Air Langhi

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    When its 1-1 and someone has a couple inches and 40+ pounds on you its really hard especially like on a driveway it is super hard. They will just use one their arm to shield the ball and push you back.
     
  14. jo mama

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    race is probably a factor.
     
  15. t_mac1

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    look, see it on the court.

    last year:

    bron v. lakers: 32ppg on 50% fg

    kobe v. cavs: 33ppg on 36% fg

    in a 1-on-1 game, lebron can basically get his position anywhere with his size and physicality and thus he can get easier shots. kobe isn't quicker than lebron to drive on him consistently and thus will depend on his J. so unless kobe is ridiculously hot, he's not going to beat lebron in a 1-on-1 game. in a 1-on1- game w/ no help, you take lebron's size and quickness to the rim over kobe's J anyday.

    even kobe didn't even believe what he just blurted out; look at his reaction the moment he said it.
     
  16. Lil Lee

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    The cocky son of a b*tch is correct.

    Wade, Roy, and Durant would be better opponents.
     
  17. aeolus13

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    I'd have to go with Lebron on this one. With no help defense, size and length are overwhelming advantages in the post. Because of his strength and hops, Lebron would also punish Kobe on the offensive glass. When the defender jumps to challenge your shot, that's when you re-establish position and get ready to chase the ball down.

    I'd try to avoid letting Kobe get his feet set for threes (which he hits at an unremarkable rate anyways), be physical with him on his drives, and box him out from the weakside glass as soon as the shot goes up. If he's scoring in the post while Kobe's hoisting mid-rangers, you've got to like Lebron's chances.
     
  18. aeolus13

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    And yes, Durant would give either of them all they could handle.
     
  19. supdudes

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    But Kobe is so skilled down-low (maybe even better than Scola). His fake and drop step is DEADLY, and he can easily create shots for himself. I don't doubt that LeBron will have some advantage offensively by simply being taller than Kobe. But weight is only deadly when it's in motion, or if it is used to post up. LeBron usually gets picks to start his drives, and hasn't mastered his pure postup game (as in most of the time he either passes it, spin and drives, or does a fade). If charges were called in the game, I don't think LeBron will have a easy time getting to the rim too, just because Kobe is an exellent positional defender, and will often cut off drives; Kobe got abused by Iverson when they played because Iverson can exploit Kobe's defensive anticipation by simply pulling back and change directions. LeBron's crossover skills are not nearly as good, and by virtue of his big frame, will not be as quick or agile. Kobe knows that, which is why every time he defends LeBron in a game, he sticks really close to, and forces LeBron to call a pick or pass. Basketball is a game of skill, and strength isn't everything.
     
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