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Kobe: "I'd beat LeBron 1 on 1"

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by TheMacster, Oct 2, 2010.

  1. RV6

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    hadn't watched the clip...but this is exactly what i'm talking about....people aren't taking away all of the things that help players in team situations and using them to say "see if he can do it here he'll do it there too".

    1st play is technically a fast break and Lebron has a good running start to this move, meanwhile Kobe went from side stepping to backpedaling...that's not going to happen one on one because Kobe would start in front of him with feet set, no running from across court. Not to mention that was passive defense by Kobe. In the NBA he has to be passive more often than not because there's a foul limit. Kobe isn't going to play matador defense in a one on one situation where there's no NBA fouls, a team being in the bonus, etc..

    2nd play, again Kobe not set in front of him, he's coming back from playing the passing lane or guarding someone else...he has to go towards lebron, the moment he stops going forward to set his feet lebron makes the counter move. Typical play seen in the NBA when a defender is running behind and you use their momentum to get by them, but no reason why Kobe has to do it in a one on one situation.

    3rd play, Kobe finally set and Lebron settles for a jumper, although you could argue Odoms presence caused it, so can't really use this as evidence for either player's benefit.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Kobe has had more help than anyone in the history of the NBA.
     
  3. RV6

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    then i guess its a good thing we're discussing a non-NBA game.
     
  4. YaoZow

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    That's what everybody says.

    But when I look at it, I see a bunch of whatever dudes before they became Lakers.

    Rockets couldn't wait to get rid of all the chucking Ron did.

    Gasol was Gasoft in Memphis, one of the sissiest big men in the game. Who even thought of Pau Gasoft before he became a Laker? 4 years ago, Gasoft wouldn't even crack an NBA top 30.

    Lamar Odom was a career under-achiever who smoked weed, nuff said

    Fisher sucks

    Vujachik, Jordan Farmar, DJ mBenga, Josh Powell...who the hell are these guys? :grin:

    Lakers way over-rated
     
  5. roslolian

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    What are you talking about?

    Gasol was only called Gasoft because he played in Memphis and didn't have a legitimate center alongside him. Anybody who has followed him in Memphis knows he has been a top big man for a long time. Why the hell did you think Pops went ballistic on the media and commented about having a committee which vetoes stupid trades like that? Even before he became a Laker Gasol has already been a fixture of the Spain national team and has been the MVP in a league much more physical than the NBA.

    Odom was a former all star. Same with Ron Artest. Andrew Bynum if he's healthy looks like 3rd best center in the league after DH and Yao. Please stop kidding around, the Lakers are still the deepest and most talented team in the league.
     
  6. YaoZow

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    He was still soft in 2008 on the Lakers and got ripped for being so soft when he let the Celtics beat him down.

    Odom was never an all star and he's best known for smoking weed.

    Ron was an all star in 2004. Since then, he's more crazy than all star. It's kind of like how TMac was an all star in 2007 but he isn't anymore.

    Bynum is glassman...the dude is always injured. Kind of like Oden who can never stay healthy either.
     
  7. bullardfan

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    Why 11? Why doesn't he just make 10 louder?
     
  8. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Because Kobe goes to 11.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    kobe can beat lebron 1-on-1 w/ his knees at 60% and in his sleep?

    tony allen must be better than lebron than.
     
  10. roslolian

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    LOL everybody has a weakness, you describe the Lakers like they're the worst team in the league. Gasol has always played the same way, the fact that the Celts had PJ Brown and prime KG was a bigger reason why they lost. Odom's actually more known for being a candyman, but when he's focused he's one of the best SFs in the league. Artest is streaky as hell, and although he's crazy he owned Paul Pierce and made him his b**** the entire series. All of the weaknesses you mentioned are mental ones, and PJ knows how to manipulate that more than anyone else.


    Wade is injury prone, people always assume he's the same age as Melo and LBJ but he's only a year younger than Kobe. Bosh has never done anything in Toronto except pad stats and he's even softer than Gasoft. Miller and Big Z are old. OMG LBJ is playing on the worst squad EVAR.
     
  11. clippy

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    Math fail. Shocking from a Kobe fan, I know.
     
  12. clippy

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    My apologies! I thought goodbug posted that since misinformation is common from him. I now see the sarcasm you intended, as obviously both the Lakers and Heat are stacked this year (and finally Lebron has help on par with what Kobe has had for 90% of his career). But for the record, Wade is over three years younger than Kobe and closer to Lebron/Melo in age. He is in the typical NBA player prime right now, which is what makes the Heat so special-- having three superstars in that place at one time. Never been done before, probably never will be again.
     
  13. goodbug

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    Heat was 5th seed in east for 2 years in a row. You add Bosh and Miller to that team and they should be in ECF and has a chance to make finals. Of course LeBron saw the opportunity and jumped the bandwagon.

    And no, Kobe's team can't make WCF without him. If he didn't make that 6 winning shots alone, they wouldn't have HCA in first round last year. Lakers don't have more talents, but they do have more heart and chemistry than any LeBron's team.



     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    What about will to win?
     
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    This interview was conducted on May 2nd 2010?? Wasn't he still on the Lakers roster at the time and actually playing here in the states???
    I don't know I could get my dates all wrong...
     
  17. roslolian

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    What people can see is that LBJ takes more shots and yet still converts at a higher FG% than Kobe. Shooting percentages and statistics aren't made up of thin air, they're based on facts and what actually happened on the court. Also LBJ has posted a better FG% than Kobe for the last 5 years now, its not a fluke like what you're trying to say.

    Unless you're basing it all on style points, LBJ is indeed the better shooter and has been for several years now.
     
  18. t_mac1

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    do those people who answer those questions know what entails a 1-on-1 game?

    refs? are you freakin' serious? since when are there refs in a 1-on-1 game?

    in streetball 1-on-1, lebron would destroy kobe. there are no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

    it's funny they say kobe would win if refs were involved. lol.
     
  19. TheGreat

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    Kobe is done as a top 10 player in this league.

    LeBron would absolutely dominate him.
     
  20. jlwee

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    Lakers don't have more talents? Lakers have heart?
    Tell me, without talents and only heart, where did Mr. Kobe Bryant led his team to before Pau Gasol came along?
     

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