Kobe Bryant the most overrated player in NBA History?

Yeah, if you don't include Shaq or Duncan in his era.

 

Funny. This era actually has the best, most complex defense by far.

 

If Bird doesn't get credit for 1981, then Kobe shouldn't get credit for 2010. Gasol outplayed him in the finals.

So Kobe has only led his team to 1 title and he's drawing comparisons to Jordan? Geez... He's more overrated than I thought...

 

This era may have more complex defensive strategies, but the overall defense of the 80's/90's was far superior.

Back then, you had better defensive centers, rougher fouls, and most importantly, hand-checking.

 

But you didn't have the same double teaming/defensive schemes or amount of athletes on the floor.

Like forcing a player to the baseline is a pretty new concept to defend the pick and roll.

Like if you really rewatch an 80s game, for most of the game, there just isn't the same defensive apptitude.


IMO, it was much harder to drive back then. But it was much easier to get mid range shots. Players hardly ever contested/closed out properly. There is a lot more energy spent running around today. But of course less physical contact is allowed driving to the hoop.

 

Most overrated? Probably not, but he is overrated.

 

Yes for the 80's, definately not for the 90's.

 

I would say mos def he is da MOST OVERRATED EVER.


Never had i heard any other players fans compare someone to Jordan as much as kobe fans.


HE is not "ALMOST JORDAN" or better than jordan, which ive heard many time from kobetards, all over laker ground, etc etc


DUDE DONT BELONG IN DA SAME SENTENCE AS. JORDAN.

 

Not for the 90s when Jordan was playing.

 

LOL, because Shaq was the man, Kobe couldn't play better than him? And because Bird was the man, Cedric Maxwell couldn't play better than him? MVP is determined by performance, not by "who's the man". That's why Maxell got the final MVP. You don't have a point and you come out with this bull****.

If this is really about who's the man, good luck with your LeChoke. Because this is Wade's team. And it doesn't matter if LeChoke plays better. LeChoke fanbois are so insecure and they started these bull**** threads, and I wasn't supposed to mention LeChoke because this is all about bashing Kobe. LOL

 

And MJ said Kobe deserved comparison. Too bad you can't change that.

 

Then tell me how Kobe managed to get final MVP and Bird didn't.

 

Teams average 109.9 points in 1987 when MJ scored 37 ppg. So much about better defense. Kid, you ain't old enough to watch games back then.

 

I dunno, even when I watch Jordan games, I still don't think that teams played picks and off ball movement as well as they do today with help off each other.

However, Jordan would get to the rim so easily in this era it balances out.

 

Complex doesn't equate to better.
Electric Knife is more complex . .. but a regular Knife is still better

Rocket River

 

Finals MVP is determined by the media. They don't take an in-depth look at the game. They just saw that Kobe averaged 28 ppg and figured he was the most valuable player for the Lakers. They didn't care that he shot 40% from the field. And if you consider only the 4 games that the Lakers won, Kobe's fg% drops down to 37%. Pathetic.

Look at Kobe's overall statline: 29ppg (40% shooting), 4 apg, 8 rpb (2 orpg), 4 turnovers/game.

Look at Gasol's: 19ppg (48% shooting), 4 apg, 12 rpg (5 orpg), 3 bpg, 2 turnover/game. Plus, Gasol was guarding Garnett and served as the Lakers' defensive anchor.

Who do you think was more valuable in the series?

Btw, I'm still waiting on your all-time top 10 list of NBA players.

 

So you attribute the 109.9 ppg solely to poor defense? What about better offense? Pace? Rule changes?

 

If you don't think today's defensive schemes are much more effective than those in the 80s or even 90s... I don't know what to say. Just watch more basketball I guess.

 

So the world is wrong and you are right, cry me a river and I couldn't care less.

Kobe guarded Rondo, who killed the Cavs and was widely considered the best player in Celtics for that playoff. Kobe also constantly faced double team and got opens for his teammates. Gasol had a solid series, but he wasn't the best player on that team. He got most of his points off open layups/jumpers and offense board.

So why's my list so important to you? I couldn't care less what you think.

 

80s ball are all about fastbreak. Tons of layup. High fg% and poort 3pt%. It's because defense tights up today that players have to shoot more and shoot better in 3 in order to spread floor better.