and shot 41.5% guarded by allen iverson and eric snow in the finals. why are you bringing up battier. kobe never faced battier in the finals. so you using regular season accomplishments as merit but ignoring poor performances in the post season. WAIT. it's that what you critisize lebron fans for doing? ahahahahahahahahahahahahaa kobe stan double standard. jordan drops 55 on a 2nd team defensive player IN THE FINALS and drops 46 and a buzzer eater while guarded by a 6 ft 7 great defender in bryron rusell with pippen in the locker room because of a bad back IN THE FINALS.
Jeff Van Gundy said it himself that these advanced defenses today are tailor made to stop a Superstar. Think about those iconic moments of Jordan shooting over Russell or Craig Ehlo. Yep, there's only 1 defender. Now watch Ray Allen, Paul Pierce and Rajon Rondo triple teaming Kobe Bryant.
look at the big men jordan had to face. who is kobe facing now? and FYI, kobe was never tripled team v. the celtics. stop making things up. he wasn't doubled much until game 5.
C'mon man. Im really starting to believe that you guys are a bunch of teenagers who never saw Jordan play. Jordan was double and triple teamed all the time. You fail to mention the "iconic moments" where Jordan had to give up the ball to Steve Kerr and John Paxson to win playoff games because he was trapped and double teamed. To suggest that Jordan had it easier is just plain loony. You guys need to quit while youre behind.
I ain't the only loony one. Jeff Van Gundy has said the same. I take his opinion over your rec league experience any day, and twice on Sundays.
I'm getting sick of these people who only show up in threads about Kobe and defend him to no end. MJ will always be >than Kobe who for now is > than Lebron
Around '04 or '05, the NBA ended hand checking as well as defensively clogging the lane to SPECIFICALLY INCREASE SCORING. This was SPECIFICALLY DONE to help players like Kobe. When Jordan played, players were practically allowed to wrestle their opponent Dude, you really need to go somewhere, drink your milk and STFU.
For half a season. The Lakers would not have won the west that year without Gasol because Bynum went down. The biggest advantage the Lakers have had over every opponent in the playoffs the last three years is size up front, not Kobe.
Because basketball is a team sport. Because players can play at a level above or below their typical production for a seven game series. Because Hollinger doesn't do team predictions based on PER at all.
Perhaps that's because MJ had a higher career PER than Wilt and had more seasons with a PER greater than 30.
If Kobe took a 10 win team to 40 wins and Lebron took a 30 win team to 60+ wins, doesn't that make him at least as good as Kobe using your logic? Oh wait, that's right. You don't use logic. :grin:
Not MJ, Lebron, or Wilt good. Both those guys topped out with a single season just over 28. MJ, Lebron, and Wilt all had multiple seasons over 30.
I claimed Kobe didn't get handcheck call. It can't be more evident he's not getting it the last 3 finals, all very physical. If you don't agree, don't you need to show me the HC calls he got? A video clip is stronger than one thousand words, but you choose one thousand words, LOL.
Didn't MJ get only 41.5% in 96 finals too? And LeBron only 36.8% in 07 finals. I don't get how LeQuitters fans can try to downplay Kobe's achievement and at the same time glorify LeQuitter.
Of course not, coz when Kobe has good a team, he can take it to championship, LeQuitter couldn't and he's looking to be sidekick now.
In 2005-06 season, Kobe's FTA/FGA went from around .5 in previous season to .3x, and he stayed there the years after. Actually, he's at that level most of his career. Before and after Handcheck rule, you call that benefit huh?
This is crazy, LeBron underperformed in playoff more often than not, he might be shooting close to 50% in regular season. But he's had sub 40% shooting in 07 finals and 06 semi finals. Kobe in his worst 04 finals, didn't shoot as bad as LeBron. So Kobe had 7 finals, won 5 of them, all shot better than LeBron's only finals, and you are calling me using double standard for regular season and playoff? Holy.