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Kobe Bryant on RIB

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Aug 27, 2010.

  1. goodbug

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    He used team PER for prediction and failed miserably.
    But you insisted PER is most important number to compare players. And that's not r****ded?

     
  2. goodbug

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    LOL, once is still way better than none.
    LeBron had the same win shares in finals as all his teammates. So he's as good as 11 scrubs.

    LOL

     
  3. Mr. Space City

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    then your argument is void.

    teams dont even run zone for entire game. they just flash it for a certain period then return to man.

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    no team is a complete zone tea so why does i matter? kobe was guarded but ray allen and tony allen specifically. it's not like he was getting doubled the WHOLE game. even then you kobe stans praise kobe's "AMAZING mid range game" when the zone forces you to make jump shots so in essence it should fit into kobe's skill sets but he just misses shots.

    jordan was a relentless slasher that played in an era where hand checking made it harder to go to the basket and with the no defensive 3 second rule it made big man defend the paint so much more easier.

    so jordan excels at slashing in an era where slashing was the most difficult. lol

    loose enforcement of zone w/ no penalty for handchecking w/ no defensive 3 seconds > loose enforcement of hand-checking w/ no penalty for zone w/ defensive 3 seconds
     
  4. YaoZow

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    Bynum sucked in 2006/07.

    Kobe trashed Bynum in summer of 2007.

    Kobe shut up when the season started.

    Bynum started to play well.

    So when Kobe made his demands, the Lakers were a crappy team that had almost got swept in the 1st round of the Playoffs.

    But unlike Lebron, Kobe persevered and gave it another shot and the rest is history.
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    What a joke. Kobe is such a dumb flip flopper.
     
  6. goodbug

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    Because when handcheck is not called. Zone is more freedom, and 3 second violation is just a much lesser version of illegal defense. So you think you can just stand in the paint guarding no one in the old days?

    And I repeat, handcheck is not for Kobe. RA had one HC call the entire final series. Show me the clips that's not the case.

    What's so difficult to understand Kobe has to face tougher defense. Starting from more flexibility in team defense and better defensive wing player. Show me a few tall wing defenders in Artest/Bowen/Battier caliber in 90s not named Pippen, would you?





     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    You brought up Finals win shares.

    If LeBron wins a ring and leads his team in Win Shares this year, then he has already tied Kobe. LOL.
     
  8. goodbug

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    LOL, so that's all you can argue now?

     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    No, it's not. His prediction skills are bad, but PER is still a good measure of a player's effectiveness. Those are two completely separate issues.
     
  10. YaoZow

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    Kobe was trying to get management to do something about that poor team they had.

    And it worked.

    Lebron betrayed his team on TV and left a 60 win team to become LeRobin.

    If kobe had a 60 win team, that never would have gone down.
     
  11. goodbug

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    How convenient. So you decide what's useful what's not, why do you waste my time here? You prove LeBron's GOAT because you say so.



     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Kobe was trying to bail on his team, period.
     
  13. goodbug

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    Kobe bailed on a 40 wins team, LeQuitter bailed on consecutive 60 win team.

     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    I didn't say LeBron is GOAT. Jordan is, because he put up great stats and didn't coattail.
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

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    He was trying to bail on a team that was 1st in the WC the very first season after he demanded a trade.

    Besides, it doesn't matter. A quitter is a quitter. Koquit Bryant.
     
  16. goodbug

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    As soon as you decide what's useful what's not. It doesn't matter what you try to prove, you already prove it. Let's not waste time here.

     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    PER matters. Hollinger's personal and subjective projections of future PER do not.

    Capiche?
     
  18. goodbug

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    So he bailed before they became No.1, and they needed Kobe's to average 35 to be in playoff. LeQuitter bailed after they're already No.1 in consecutive years.

    And that's still the same? Wow, I am impressed by how r****d you are.

     
  19. YaoZow

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    He actually wasn't. He said something like "I hope management can do something so I can stay in this team I love".

    Wouldn't YOU be frustrated if the best management could do was

    1) Bring in Smush Parker
    2) Make Luke Walton a starter
    3) Give you an All Time Center in Kwame Brown

    You can't squeeze blood from a stone. Kobe had enough and demanded that management get in new blood or trade him.

    LeBron had a 60 win team and took off to become LeRobin. Management did all they could to bring in talent to surround him and fielded one of the favorites to win a championship 2 years in a row.
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    They both bailed. Kobe was trying to quit on a team that was 1st the very next season, so they both wanted to quit good teams.

    Like I said, KoQuit Bryant.
     

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