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Kobe Bryant on RIB

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Aug 27, 2010.

  1. Mr. Clutch

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    Kobe is the only guy who road coattails and claimed to be "The Man" at the same time. "It's on me!" Yeah, after you get Gasol. :rolleyes:
     
  2. goodbug

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    Is that an argument at all? Sonics used zone and Dream suffered from it because refs didn't call it as tight as it should. To date Rox fans are complaining about it. And I wonder why?

    Pistons had a great book about "Jordan rules" and it's all about fake zone, to not let refs call illegal offense you have to run constantly between 2 players instead of simply picking the best spot to help and not leave the lesser player wide open. So you think they liked that?

     
  3. YaoZow

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    Lakers were #1 in the West PRIOR to Gasol.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    So how do you explain LeBron putting up Jordan-like PERs then?

    Face it, Kobe's stats suck compared to Jordan's. He had more help than Jordan. Kobe is just second fiddle, and that's how it always will be.
     
  5. TheShooter

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    I don't know where you got that, LA was barely making the playoffs.
     
  6. bongo33

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    We've got the legion of Kobe fans. Leader is Goodbug (are you even a rockets fan?), followed by Yaozow and Adoo. But in all honestly you shouldn't compare Kobe to Lebron yet
     
  7. goodbug

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    How about win shares in finals? LeBron had like 0.

    Suns played a lot of zone and Lakers countered with P&R and Kobe's number went all through the roof. That's just the way it's. If PER is so accurate, why does Hollinger suck in prediction every year?


     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    For half a season.

    And Kobe demanded to be traded right before the season. I thought he only wanted to leave because he had no help?
     
  9. Mr. Space City

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    but you just said jordan didn't face zones when there is evidence to prove that he did which has been presented to you that you still choose to ignore.

    it's just funny to see you run around and circles than get your myths debunked with fact. it's like a mouse in a maze. :grin:
     
  10. YaoZow

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    Incorrect.

    The Lakers of 2006/07 sucked.

    But the 07/2008 Lakers, PRIOR to Pau Gasol were a great team and championship contenders.
     
  11. goodbug

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    In 2007-08 regular season, Lakers were the number 1 seed before Bynum was injured.

     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Dude, Hollinger is a journalist, not a real scout.

    WTF are you talking about the Suns for? Who cares, the Suns have horrible defense.
     
  13. goodbug

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    Jordan didn't face zone because the rule disallowed it. The defending team ran some gray area to simulate the zone but it's not as effective and it's at refs' mercy. A clip or 2 couldn't prove anything. Just like Kobe played with handchecking rule and I challenge you to show those called and those not called. He got one handcheck call in the entire 2010 finals.

     
  14. YaoZow

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    Kobe had no help in 2006/2007 (Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Kwame Brown were the Starters).

    In 2007, that all changed.

    1) Fisher replaced Smush
    2) Bynum replaced Kwame

    The Lakers were rolling and championship contenders prior to Pau Gasol joining them. And if they had not gotten Pau Gasol, they already had his brother, Marc Gasol who is beasting in the Turkey games right now.
     
  15. goodbug

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    And what the **** did LeBron do in finals versus a super Spurs defense? He shot 36.8%. Kobe in the next year destroyed it with 50% shooting, can't see the difference?

     
  16. goodbug

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    Because Hollinger invented PER? So Hollinger sucks but PER is so accurate, wow, I can't believe how r****ded LeQuitters fans are. First T_mac1 insisted Jordan shot below 43% and it's end of world and now this.

     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    And yet Kobe still wanted to be traded. Remember he trashed Bynum. I thought only LeBron demanded to leave good teams?
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

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    Oh, so now you want to talk about win shares in the Finals?

    Guess what, Kobe has lead his team in Win Shares in the Finals ONCE (the first year with Pau).

    COAT TAIL RIDER!!!
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    Just because he created PER doesn't mean he can project it. Simple flaw in your thinking there.
     
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    He trashed Bynum because Bynum couldn't even start over Kwame and Lakers refused to trade Kidd for him. Since when Kwame caliber player can't be trashed?

    Lakers made finals without Bynum just fine. Won 2 with him playing bad. With an addition of Kidd they may have 3peat already.

     

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