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Kobe - America thoughts

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, May 12, 2009.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    The problem with that argument is that he paid her off after the incident had been made public. So saying he was settling out of court to keep his wife from finding out when doesn't make much sense when she already knew.
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    So you are basically saying passionate Kobe took advantage of a mentally unstable woman.
     
  3. Deckard

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    That's exactly what he's saying, as well as saying he's OK with that. At least he answered my question as to which category he falls under.
     
  4. Honey Bear

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    Note I wrote "initially" in regards to his conversation with the police and whatever conversations he had with Kate Faber.

    Spinning things out of context for a little giggle again, like Kobe would know her medical history before a brief fling. I expected better from you, Judoka. This might lead me to my next thread, unpassionate nerds who put women on pedestals leading to a life of misery and unanswered questions.
     
  5. Honey Bear

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    Deckard, if you don't mind me asking, are you above 50? I'm going to go ahead and stereotype you as a senior citizen based on judgments I made from this thread. I've also decided I don't like senior citizens, so I'm going to stalk your posts looking for tiny flaws that I can highlight to feel better about my hate.

    And I'm not inviting you to my birthday party.
     
  6. aghast

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    Passionate person who can get lost in the heat of the moment??? WTF? You just defined an acquaintance- or date-rapist.

    "Hey, baby, I know you're crying and saying no, but I'm really into this, and I'll be done in just a few more minutes. Chin up for a sec."

    NBC Sports:
    Attorneys' leaked assertions aside, that's no indication that Faber was schizophrenic. Seroquel is a drug for manic depression; Wellbutrin is a commonly prescribed anti-depressant. If she had indeed previously overdosed, if the counsels' leaks contained any truth (and were not intended merely to discredit the prosecution in the public eye), both drugs would indicate treatment for that depression. Last I checked, depression does not inhibit one's ability to say, "No." Treatment for suicidal ideation does not negate a woman's agency over her own body.

    Neither would she lose the ability to say "No," even if she were merely "passionate" after she stopped being "lost in the moment."
     
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  7. Deckard

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    Go ahead. It would fit your M.O.

    I wouldn't go. Furthermore, I hope you don't receive any presents, the cake is stale, and you are allergic to the icing.
     
  8. Honey Bear

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    You don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. You're taking the side of the depressed chick (which has wide variety of symptoms that you probably won't let yourself comprehend) and I'm taking the neutral side. No definite right or wrong, only preconceived notions.
     
  9. Honey Bear

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    Please. If you were young enough to know what a facebook invite was, you would be the first to sign up for it.
     
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  10. Deckard

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    You are an open book.
     
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  11. aghast

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    What kind of "unanswered questions" do you have in mind, pray tell?

    "I wonder if she's gonna call the cops because I wouldn't stop?"
    "Has she had enough to drink that she won't remember this in the morning?"

    Your view of the (presumably) opposite sex is indeed frightening.

    As one of those general life rules, I prefer to have sex with people who want to have sex with me. It is indeed a frustrating state of affairs, but somehow I manage.

    Since you earlier couldn't spell "schizophrenic" correctly, I'm going to go out on a limb and assume I know more about its symptoms than you do.

    Yes, in this instance, you and I don't know what happened. Only two people know what happened, and both of them agree she didn't give consent.

    "No" means "No." Or, if it's more your style and agreed upon beforehand, "Red" means "No." That way, you stay out of jail, your conscience remains clear, and all regrets tend to wait till the morning after.
     
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    I wish I could negative rep someone.
     
  13. MisterPink

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    This is ridiculous? You just made an intentionally inflammatory (and ridiculous) thread and are now trying to fight off the entire D&D.

    Also dude, it's really simple. It's called ****ing sportsmanship. It's that easy. Kobe doesn't show any. Whether he's giving Shane a knee or giving Manu an elbow, he's proven time and time again that he doesn't know how to play nice.

    Have you ever played sports dude? Like growing up? What do they always teach you? Be a good ****ing sport, win or lose.
     
  14. SuperStar

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    Maybe Ronny's last name is Turiaf?
     
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    Begone troll and return whence you came.


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  16. Honey Bear

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    Winning isn't always about playing nice. It's about succeeding within a set of rules, which Kobe has done. You can argue he gets foul calls others don't, but this honor has been earned by most NBA greats over their careers. I play sport to win and dominate, not so I can rack up participation trophies for my mantle.
     
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    Here is an excellent post from JackFlag that reiterates my point about pursuing excellence as a professional athlete, and the possible side effects that won't translate with the common fan:
    But I guess appreciating the enemy makes me a Lakers fan.
     
  18. B-Bob

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    Ronny, yes or no: are you a robot? Perhaps this is all you have left to do after Rocky 4?
     
  19. Honey Bear

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    I like to live my life with a certain amount of discipline around a set of values that I relentlessly pursue. If that's what you mean.
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    How does that explain then his out of court settlement?


    I'm not spinning anything out of context. You wrote :
    From your statement you clearly state that Kate Faber is mentally troubled. YOu clearly state the Kobe is a passionate person who can get lost in the heat of the moment. Whether he knew her history or not shouldn't defend that he let his passion get the best of him.

    Those are your own words.

    This has nothing to do with nerds putting women on pedestal but it has to do with dismissing a situation where someone acted without thought with potentially very bad consequences. Frankly that is much much more troubling than misguided hero worship of a sports figure.
     

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