and Tracy thought we got on his ass, if he gets picked up by new york he has another thing coming. but i wouldn't mind having tmac in a d'antoni system, u know he doesn't mind hacking up shots
T-Mac seems like a mediocre fit for a D'Antoni system, which isn't as much about run, run, run....but move, move, move - something which, if his years here are any indication, isn't his strong suit. Even when at his best, T-Mac excels in a half-court setting, with the ball in his hands where he can set up his defender to take off the dribble, make a move for an open jumper, or force a double to become a playmaker. Not that he'd be bad in that system, but it's not the perfect marriage. Unless I'm mistaken, I think T-Mac's salary will count 1.5x on the Knicks payroll until they renounce him. I guess they'd do that regardless, because they don't exactly need his bird rights to sign him to a huge deal or anything, and they could just renounce him, go after big name FA's, and sign T-Mac with what's left if they wanted, but just a caveat I thought I'd throw out.
If we are forced to trade with the Knicks in the T-Mc dilemma, then here is what I would go for and why: NY receives T-Mc ($23.25M) + J. Taylor ($.75M) + J. Dorsey ($.75M). They get a young SG and a PF to replace Jordan Hill. $24.75M Houston receives (Al Harrington ($10M expiring) + Darko Milicic ($7.5M expiring) + Nate Robinson ($4M expiring) + Jordan Hill ($2.5M). $24.00M Houston gets to experiment with Harrington and Darko, gets a young prospect in Hill and receives excellent trade bait in Robinson (or Brooks or Lowry, whomever is the least desirable keeper). Darko has never had a coach that could work with a young ego. Adelman can. If he could salvage Darko, wow, what a nice player to put alongside Yao. If not, there's $7.5 in expiring $$ right there. The same holds true for Harrington, who is not known for his team chemistry. However, Big Al would fit in Adelman's system very nicely. Again, I trust Adelman to give Harrington a psych makeover.
Assuming he can run and move around, fitting on a team that consist of trading baskets best suits him. A offensive orientated coach - that likes to outscore the other team is McGrady's strong point. His role however, at this stage would be best off the bench as a 6th man scorer - in that system. His career could extend for another couple years as long as it was toned down into a specific role that is embedded into his strength. Assuming he has worked on his shooting display, he could be used off the bench as a scorer i think. Somebody who ain't going to give all-out for 36 minutes, but all-out in 22-24 minutes with something to proove. That remains to be seen though and the chances of him recovering working with Grover has a pretty good chance of happening.
I do..I gambled on him on my Fantasy league I can see him becoming the playmaker in New York. Under a D'antoni system who could average 20 8 and 8..
we would truly have houston rocket midgets. but think about it we'd be unstoppable you can't guard all of them at once.
Not too shabby, since we seem to be avoiding taking on Jared Jeffries, so Walsh wants to see whether Tmac can be that other "max-type" player to pair with....whomever. If Tmac plays great (we'll see about that), he gets a nice new deal, albeit nowhere near his current price tag (obviously). If he plays well, then he'll get, hmn, say a new deal in the range of $7 mil per year (maybe). If he stinks on ice, they can let him go. As far as Al No Sharington (I saw that one on the realgm Knicks board, had to use it) and Robinson, you'd have some great 3rd-team trade chips there.
Of the three, Lowry is best true point guard. Robinson is a bigger, stronger version of Brooks. Brooks has a very slight edge in speed and Robinson has a very slight edge in shooting. We currently have two munchkins at PG, but, regardless of which two of the three we kept, we would still have two munchkins at PG.
Two big problems with that trade: (1) The Knicks don't want to trade Jordan Hill. If the Rockets can get him, great. But that trade is not one that Donnie Walsh wants to make. (2) Nate Robinson has veto rights over any trade. Going to Houston will cost him his Bird rights. Regardless of whether you think NY will re-sign him (or even sign-and-trade him), he won't want to foreclose that option completely, let alone to go to Houston to compete for playing time with Aaron Brooks and Kyle Lowry.
Jordan Hill has not been playing as well for them as hoped so they might be amenable. You make a good point on Robinson. However, if Hill is not included, Morey could go for Chris Duhon's $6M expiring + New York's best second rounder. I'm afraid adding Mobley's expiring would force us to give up a solid young player like Budinger. Incidentally, I forgot to mention earlier that I included Dorsey and Taylor merely to balance the roster additions, not to make the money match.
But would it be such a problem for Nate? He and D'Antoni are not on the same page, they're not even in the same enciclopedia set. If Nate sat down with his agent and the team, I'm sure he might come to the conclusion that the 5'7" shooting guard is not going to command a gigantic new contract. Maybe something in the range of what he's making now. Stipulation: As long as he's bound for a third team. The Rockets are vertically-challenged enough.
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Still not likely. Keep in mind, the whole "trade demand" issue was before he was re-inserted into the rotation. Also, regardless of logic or reason, if Nate and/or his agent THINK THERE IS ANY POSSIBILITY for Nate to get big money this offseason, he's not going to agree to any trade from New York. Not when he'd lose his Bird rights.
THIS is why I hate it when people just use initials around here. That is, except for DM (Daryl Morey) and DD (DaDakota).
Not trying to be a jerk or anything but I'm still not sure what Bird rights mean.. doesn't Nate Robinson keep them if he is traded? He's been there more than 3 years.
