I'll try to pay more attention so I can read the minds of all the GMs who have and have not ruled out trying to work out a deal. All I've seen so far is conjecture, and mostly not anywhere near credible. So, you know who is and is not interested? Then get it in print or e-ink and you'll be a star.
Even if a trade doesn't happen, McGrady could end up in NY after a buyout. It seems like a logical fit for both parties.
I didn't mean to come across as snappy, but, I mean, really...reading between the lines is not all that difficult. There have been multiple reports regarding NY's interest in McGrady despite the overwhelming sentiment that: (1) Teams are not all that interested in him even despite the down market -and- (2) Finding a deal that Morey would agree to, a deal that would almost certainly qualify as highway robbery in terms of talent-for-talent, is much easier said than done. GM's are starting to "get" how Morey works and how he's in a position to use the team's financial flexibility and stability to pilfer other teams for talent. Teams know this and that's precisely the type of deal Morey is after. The ones that know all this and still maintain interest in this type of deal seem to be pretty few and far between. Compound all that with the likelihood of NY being a near dream destination for Team McGrady and you have the basis for myself, and others, thinking that there have been or will be serious discussions with NY.
Why would we want a good player like Lee while we already has a bunch of good players? We need an all star, not just a bunch of good players, tell me why would morey be interested to take a bunch of good players while there is already not enough time for the current player like chase, lowry?????
He would be interested if there's another deal in the works. I can see interest in Robinson if we're aiming for Bosh, or Lee if we're aiming for a swingman like Martin.
End of snippiness, ok? I am just frustrated that 'we' 'all' 'think' we 'know' what we 'think' but do NOT 'know'.
Bird rights are only good if the player's current team wants you otherwise it's useless. The Knicks don't want him on their payroll because of the amount of his caphold.
First of all, David Lee and his agent are going to hold out all hope--and I mean ALL hope--that either the Knicks will re-sign him to a long-term deal if they cannot land a major free agent or that somehow work a sign-and-trade deal can be done. For instance, if Lebron is ready to sign with the Knicks but wants a longer term deal that only Cleveland can give, perhaps the Knicks can sign and trade Lee to Cleveland in exchange for a signed and traded Lebron. Both Lebron and Lee make more money this way. I know that is very unlikely to happen, but why would David Lee completely foreclose that as an option? Also, the chances that the Knicks actually land Lebron, Wade or Bosh is probably well below 50%. If they lose out on those guys, they WILL re-sign David Lee to a fat contract. Why would he foreclose that (much more likely) option? Basically, agreeing to ANY trade out of New York (unless, as others have said, it was to a team with significant cap room this summer and with a commitment to sign him to a big contract) is just foolish for David Lee. Hence, any trade scenarios involving David Lee need to be held with a large amount of skepticism.
Even with a team with significant cap room (like Sacramento) a trade with Lee is doubtful. This is because (1) Lee is currently important to the Knicks doing well -- at least in the last month-- this season (Presumably, they don't want to tank this year if they can help it--loss of revenue, also not looking good to a FA as a destination-- besides, they don't even have a pick to tank for), and (2) more important, a team with cap room, like SAC doesn't have much incentive for getting Lee now except as a half-season rental. If SAC wants Lee for the upcoming years, all they need to do is to sign him with the cap room. As such, I don't think SAC would offer that much for the extra 1/2 season rental rights to Lee. http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm
Bird also allows for an SnT. Knicks would want him if they could re-sign him on a one-year low $ deal with a wink-wink that the next year, while still owning his Bird rights, they would make up for the one year deal.
Lee has right of trade approval due to losing his Bird rights if traded. Why would he do that without a promise for a new deal at big money by the acquiring team, which would, by definition, need to be significantly under the cap.
I agree everything you said, which is the same thing that BimaThug said. My point is, in addition to Lee's motivation as described above, we also need to consider the motivation of this "under the cap" Lee destination team. The "under the cap" team should not trade for Lee unless the asking price is very low because the team can just wait until summer to sign Lee without giving the Knicks anything.
I agree, I ABrooks> Nate Robinson and Carl Landry > David Lee. Were is the benefit? Dont waste our time.....
This. If it comes down to the Knicks I want picks from them and a 3rd team sending us an asset. Best of both worlds. I wish trade machine would allow picks too be included....
First of all, the Knicks can't trade their 2011 pick until after the 2010 NBA Draft, so it would have to be their picks in 2012 and 2014. Second, draft picks have a value of $0 for trade purposes, so you can still run whatever deals you want through the Trade Machine and then just figure in the picks on the side. It won't affect whether a trade will work or not on Trade Machine.
Because if those two have to be included in a Bosh deal, then Lee and Robinson are pretty decent replacements.
