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Knicks Still Pursuing T-Mac

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheGreat, Feb 14, 2010.

  1. Da Wink

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    gettin Hill would be our insurance for Scola...
     
  2. Nolocke

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    If its expirings for expirings I would rather move T-mac and give our guys some damn back up. Hill and Lee would really help our guys out, especially since we have no damn Center on this team.
     
  3. clos4life

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    Exactly. This is how I feel about the situation. Every year big talk. Every year we scramble like crazy to get under the tax. Thats' all we need to know.
     
  4. RV6

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    in like 3 years maybe, right now we need a two guard more than insurance ofr scola. If we get Hill, it'll likely be to send Landry out or send Hill out this summer as part of a bigger trade, while trying to keep scola.
     
  5. adammendoza4

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    It'll be nice 2 also get a draft pick from them
     
  6. Rockets4279

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    I agree talks will heat up. NY would have to offer better than Biedrins, Hinrich and Morrow which means Lee and Gallinari and the ball is in the Rockets court. NY could lose out in these discussions if Lee is not involved. Even at that he'd have to agree to a trade and still would have to agree to resign who we could use no doubt. I seriously doubt were looking to rip teams off, it's other teams who want McGrady and prevent the Rockets from making a deal.
     
  7. robbie380

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    yup...and at the end of the day morey is an employee of les. morey has tried to do his best to talk up the value of his asset (tmac), but the market really wasn't as big as he hoped. we still have a few more days so we will see what develops and if morey can turn this lump of coal into a diamond.

    and i don't know much about jordan hill, but he was a #8 pick and he has legit PF size. if morey can turn tmac into a #8 pick then that's fine with me.
     
  8. acefan18

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    I wouldn't mind New York getting desperate enough to trade

    Nate Robinson
    David Lee
    Harrington
    Hill or Chandler

    for

    T-Mac
    Brian Cook
    (fillers)

    probably not gonna happen
     
  9. XBLRocketman111

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    Give me Wilson Chandler anyday the week.....you gotta trade
     
  10. BimaThug

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    Even if the Knicks were willing to trade David Lee, he can veto any trade. If he's traded out of New York, he loses his Bird rights. No way he leaves millions on the table. He's not going anywhere.

    Hill will only make $2.67M next season and should undoubtedly be much better than his limited success this season. Frankly, I'd take a lottery talent for that little salary in lieu of that little extra cap room.

    I don't think it's BS. This is the first year that Houston has even been in a POSITION to take on major salary and greatly exceed the luxury tax. The last few years, the Rockets have been anywhere from $2-3M over the threshold. Not enough to make a major move and add a star. But little enough to make minor deals to get below the threshold, save a ton of money, and to use those savings in trades and to acquire additional draft picks.

    For as big a Chase Budinger fan as you are, I would think that you would appreciate what buying picks can accomplish.

    Why??? Hypothetically speaking, the Rockets could trade McGrady and Cook to New York for Harrington and Hughes, and then immediately WAIVE both Harrington and Hughes (thus avoiding any chemistry issues), and Les would still end up saving about $10-11M.

    How is that not better than sitting on McGrady's contract and paying luxury tax (or having to pay up to $3M cash and future picks to dump Cook's contract)???
     
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  11. t_mac1

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    i think at worst, it will be tmac for expirings.
     
  12. Ottomaton

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    Hill during the first year of his rookie contract plus a bunch of expiring contracts sounds like about the best deal I've heard in the last couple of days. So long as they don't have to take on long term junk contracts, going forward with Hill is a net positive without some of the cost that some other people could bring.

    It would be just the one guy, but he is cheap for several years, is very long and athletic, and he has lots of room to develop. He is a guy you can grow with.

    Also, Lee is both a base year guy and only under contract for the rest of the year. To make that work seems like a lot of trouble, and the fact that he could then just move on after the year means perhaps its more trouble than its worth.

    I would look at something like the following and be pretty happy:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjtwwqq

    Rockets shave a couple of mil from the luxury tax, and it wouldn't require the Knicks to mortgage their rotation to get it done. It would really be only one piece they would care about. If the Knicks are genuinely serious about wanting McGrady, it looks to me like a win-win.

    It also means the Rockets can deal with losing one of Scola/Landry this summer if it comes to that.
     
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    Dude c'mon...what makes you think NY is going to give up David Lee?? Isiah Thomas isnt GM anymore. And if they give up David Lee, NY will no longer have a Center themselves.

    Put yourself in New York's shoes... do you want TMAC SO BAD that you're willing to give up YOUR ONLY center and a guy who puts up 20 and 10 on a daily basis?

    I cant comment on Hill cuz i've never seen him play.
     
  14. Rockets4279

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    Because there is better deals out there that is hidden from the media outlets.

    NY is more concerned about where "he" the contract goes then they are about moving their own players and even more so then dumping Jeffries. It's the kind of trade that makes no 'on the court' basketball sence. If Chicago like before is after McGrady then their goal is to trade Hinrich and Deng and move Thomas is a seperate deal i think.
     
  15. TheGreat

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    Bima, would it make sense to trade McGrady to NYK for some expiring contracts?
     
  16. DrNuegebauer

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    Well I don't think Yao is a championship caliber player when (if?) he returns. We've missed that window - and being willing to go over the luxury tax line is one thing, but doing that for Deshawn Stevenson is quite another....
    Cuban doesn't care, so he goes over.

    I'm not convinced that this move upgraded the Mavericks all that much though... I guess we'll see how it pans out?
     
  17. LongTimeFan

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    UPDATE: David Aldridge just said on TNT sources told him there's a 50/50 chance McGrady is traded to the knicks
     
  18. Shroopy2

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    "50/50" chance of deal with Knicks, David Aldridge just mentioned during All Star game
     
  19. t_mac1

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    aldrige just said there's a 50-50 chance tmac goes to the knicks as of today. nothing new i guess.
     
  20. Eddie281Houston

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    I just heard on NBA all star game that tmac has 50/50 chance to going to ny .
     

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