Kings are stinking it up right now...Karma is a B----

Mike James is everything that Rockets fans loved about Francis AND Mobley. He dribbles too much and takes plenty of "no..no...YES!" shots. Of course, he has McGrady to bail him out...

 

You need guys with the balls to take shots even if some times they overreach. Guys like Mobley, James and Bobby Jackson have their place--Franics was simply the guy who absolutely receinforced Mobley's worst tendencies. At least Mobley has put away those fools who thought Doug Christie (Mr. Alligator arms choke artist himself) was the better basketball player.

Mobley shot 10-19 for 22 points and had one TO. Pulling strings to criticize 1 play. Tmac's 2nd to last shot was a bad one too.

 

Yeah, nobody EVER criticized Steve like that when he was here...

Of course you have to have guys with balls to take those shots. Of course, you also need guys with brains to take those shots when they aren't fading away 25 feet from the basket with 15 seconds left on the clock. You also fail to mention that Mobley was only 1-4 from three point range before that shot while Peja was 4-9. Mobley didn't even attempt to look for anybody else. Yes, that one boneheaded play negated the otherwise solid game that he had. I'm hardly "pulling strings". I'm just stating facts. Mobley has always had this inferiority complex about him that made him think he was better than he really is.

 

its safe to say though that Mobley is better than Christie... or Mike James IMO.

 

Are you seriously trying to say Francis is more cognizant of the flaws in his game, more of a team player, or more of harder working within the framework of a team (playing defense, efforts to adjust to new systems), than Mobley? Or than Mike James?

Francis has these guys as a basketball player on what he was born with, but nothing else I can figure. This is not meant as a knock on Francis, he got some undo criticism, but a credit to Mobley’s and James’ effort to squeeze the most out of their talent to help their teams’ win games.

So if Tmac ill advised 2nd to last shot cost us the game last night would you be coming down on him.

 

No, I'm just saying that Mobley took a terrible, ill advised shot. If you don't agree with me there, then you weren't watching the same game I was.

Nah, you just blamed Francis for Mobley's deficiencies as a basketball player...as if Steve is telling Mobley to hold the ball for 10 seconds, pump fake a few times, then take an off balanced jumper. Mobley and Francis both had their flaws, but to just state that "Francis brought out the worst in Mobley" is absurd. If anything, that is a knock on Mobley for not being able to think for himself.

I'm not exactly sure which shot you're talking about, but if it's that off balanced jumper that he hit, I believe the shot clock was running out on that play, so he had to take that shot.

You can't tell me that after Mobley clanked that three pointer, you didn't shake your head a little...

 

When you brought up the SF comparison I assumed you were saying this kind of criticism (bad shot selection) was more appropriate for CM than SF because the latter is a star player. Maybe I misunderstood your point. My main point was that SF and CM reinforced the negative aspects of the offensive game--not either's fault for the others deficiencies, just the way it is. I did also point out that though neither Mobley nor Mike James is as talented as SF IMO both work harder to get more out of what talent they do have to help their team win--I probaby should not have brought this up because it sidetracks the discussion, but when you brought up SF (like we should have more sympathy for him than the just as if not more roasted while he was here CM) I thought it made sense to.

So was it a bad shot, sure. But when you are trying to get a tying 3 and the other team knows it often you need the first remotely good look. Bad play, but not idiotic when you consider the circumstances. Plus you have to consider the whole game.

Personally, I think I'd like to see CM continue this successful year. I hope he succedes on a team that has him in the right role, and in no small part b/c IMO he got a lot of blame here when I think he was doing the best he can for us and was a quality player for us.

 

i didn't, and i'm not sure why you did either. he was the go to man for them late in the 4th. he had scored earlier in the quarter and had just hit a tough 2 to get them within 2 and then a hug 3 to get them within 1. now they're down 3, don't have a lot of time left, and he gets a pick that gives him some separation from allen and takes a 3 and it's a terrible, negate everything positive that he did type shot? allen contested it but cat was hardly smothered and i don't know where you got fading away from. considering the roll he was on, the fact they needed a 3 without much time left, and the fact it was a decent look it would seem to be a decent shot. besides, it's not like giving it to peja at the end of a playoff game was going to accomplish anything.


you would think you would have more of a problem with the 1-15 guy pulling up from 25-26 feet out with 9 seconds left the second he touched the ball and then airballing it.

 

The Kings are getting destroyed in game 2. This is shameful. They need to blow this team up and rebuild. Their time is over. I'm sure we'd give them some draft picks for Peja.

 

They seriously look like they just don't care. Seattle's really not even playing that well. Sac just lets them drive to the basket with no resistance every time.

 

you tank to get the 6 spot and now down 0-2 not good at all. but if anything they are going back to arco and i expect the kings to win both of them there, but still the effort they have put forth in game 1 and 2 have been nothing short of pitiful

 

I don't understand never bringing the starters back. Once the momentum shifted away from the Kings and they started trading buckets, you can't stick with House, Evans, and Skinner. With 3-4 minutes left and an eight point deficit, you have a real shot at winning, especially with all your weapons being fresh. Bring in Mobley, Bibby, and Peja and make a run at them. Horrible coaching job by Adelman. Maybe this humiliation drives Mobes out of Sacto and straight into the welcoming arms of the Rockets. Here's hoping.

 

God no. If mobley is still jacking up 3s in sacto's system, he'll never change. I like the way we play right now

 

I want no part of Mobley. I don't want any players back that remind us of the old pre JVG/T-Mac days. OK, we got Moochie but he'll never see the light of day from the end of the bench unless in blowout games, which is the correct way to use him.

Also, good chance that Rick Adelman is fired if Kings are ousted in first round.

 

Like I've been saying, the Sonics will not be an easy out in the playoffs for anyone. Once Rashard Lewis and Vladimir Radmanovic both get their legs under them, the Nuggets/Spurs winner will have their hands full. In fact, let me go on record as saying the Sonics will make the WCFs. When Ray Allen, Rashard & Vladimir are shooting well, they are very tough. Rashard needs to bring it up a notch but fortunately for them they have 2-3 games left with the Kings before the next round. Assuming we finish off the Mavs, I would choose to play Phoenix next instead of the Sonics.

Turns out the playoffs seedings and matchups turned out pretty good for us. I'm glad we didn't finish 6th.

 

The Queens are finished. Peja and Bibby can't seem to get into a rhythm. They miss Webber more than they realize....and Bobby Jackson taking 18 shots?

...and I wouldn't mind having Mobley back, but not at the price he is demanding. He's going to demand 8-9 million next year, not a good price for a guy about to turn 30. He's a good three point shooter and plays good defense, things that Van Gundy is looking for in a shooting guard...

 

Mobley will return to the Kings or get the MLE from some team. Teams under the cap will target younger players or stars--not role playing 30 year old guards. But we need another PF more (keep our MLE for it), so unless we get that handled via trade I can't see Mobley coming back.

Adelman has always been overrated. He has had great talent with the Kings and Blazers, and never has been able to get it done. All he does is whine to the refs and cheer his guys, not real leadership when his team in the critical moments needs his direction.

 

No, no, no, no, no!

What's unclear about why the Kings just aren't as good anymore, especially offensively.

Magic was spot on in his postgame analysis...those guys never get easy shots anymore. Sure, Webber had something to do with that, but even though they got decent players with Mobley, or Thomas, those two guys also managed to completely change the entire style of Kings basketball.

The ball stops when it gets to them, even if only for that extra second or two. Assists go down, turnovers go up.

I like Mobley. He does play hard, he is better than advertised defender when he wants to be, but please don't bring him back. Is it that much to ask for more than one year of enjoyable offensive basketball?

 

That Webber trade is bad for both teams involved. Iverson dominates the ball too much for him to be effective and taking him away from Sacramento has been like taking away their point guard.