Kilmar Abrego Garcia will not be returned to the US

Cool... bring him to court, and present the evidence to prosecute him as the Supreme Court has ruled they must do under the law.

If he's this bad of a guy, why are you MAGA faithful so cowardly afraid to prove it to the courts?? Should be a slam dunk case if your rumors from some guy talking to the Tennessee Star are true.

Why are you guys so cowardly to present this evidence to the court?? Why do you feel so scared of this so-called evidence?

 

@Salvy
@jo mama
@basso
But does he support Palestine???!!

 

Too much evidence and too little time.

 

There is nothing that requires a trial for each of the 20 million people that violated due process by crossing the border illegally

 

You know who disagrees with you?? The Supreme Court of the United States who ruled 9 to 0 that YOU are wrong. They ruled he was here legally, and would need to be processed for a crime with due process.

Even though the Constitution still does require that ALL people inside of the United States are to be treated with due process, and does not specify illegal, or legal, regardless SCOTUS ruled he is here legally, and should be given due process.

So again... why are you such a coward in this case? Why are you afraid of the evidence if this guy really is the monster you claim he is??

If you guys think this guy represents us Libtards with TDS, and you have all of this evidence that he is the next Bin Laden, why the hell wouldn't you want to shove it in the face of all of those pesky Libs??

Prove it. Have some balls. EVEN the law affords you the opportunity to prove that Trump is right, and doing the right thing. Cowering like you are doing now is such a BETA move.

 

I am sure a lot of his stuff is sealed. It sounds like he flipped, so there isn't a lot authorities can do once they agreed to a deal.

 

So why did the Supreme Court rule that the Trump admin needs to facilitate his return under the law?

None of the cowardly excuses you guys use make any sense. Is he:

-Just one of 20 million/needle in the haystack and too much work to even find, and get back?
-A liberal darling who is the next leaders of the Democratic party?
-A criminal mastermind running all of MS13, and the transnational mob underworld of central & south America?
-or a powerful informant secretly working with the Trump administration to bring down the next El Chapo?

You guys are just all over the place here, and why do any of these characterizations even matter? What matters per the Supreme Court, and our laws is that he, and every other person here legally (and the Constitution infers illegally as well) is awarded due process, and ANY EXECUTIVE BRANCH would be violating the law by disappearing people and sending them to a foreign gulag without due process.

So if you do NOT believe in the rule of law, and just want to go off of trust... well then you are setting up precedent where BECAUSE I TRUST an AOC 2029 presidency, if her DOJ, and ICE wants to start disappearing South African legal immigrants to a Cuban prison without due process, that is something YOU ALSO HAVE TO LIVE WITH.

Do you not understand what the fck we are saying to you, and what the point is we are making?? You can either have laws, or you can deal with the ramifications of dictatorial power when the shoe is on the other foot.

 

The Supreme Court unanimously ordered the facilitation of his return because the grounds asserted for sending him to CECOT were, by the Government's own admission, an error. You can't send someone to jail then justify it retrospectively by rummaging through their past for wrongdoing.

It's not complicated, like at all.

I'm here to read about basketball, but I stumbled into this thread and it became too dumb to bear. This stuff is my day job.

 

This "legal" "opinion" and $5 will get you a cup of coffee.

The SCW echo chamber is all about ... criminal mastermind ... wife beater ... MS13 gang banger ... human traffic-er ... Venezuelan paid mercenaries who have invaded the US ... tattooed ... Kilmore Andmore Andmore Garcia. This guy is so scary that the US is afraid to let him back in, even in chains for a court date. Mad King Don is even scared ... with tears in his eyes ... he approached the federal courts ... saying "Sir, the white women are in peril!!! I am powerless to protect them.".

SCWs and Trump must know that due process is interfering with their deportation plans and may limit deportations to just criminals, which would fulfill a campaign promise but not what the White Nationalists really want.

 

I was actually defending your stance on the rule of law and why his stuff probably sealed. But go off with your expletives and insults.

 

The answer is very simple and has been explained to you 100x in this thread.

He is serving time in his original country. When he gets released, we can 'facilitate' his return back to the US to be prosecuted if necessary.

For now, nothing to see. We have more important problems than finding ones to dunk on Trump.

 

I certainly did not get that. What you were insinuating knowingly or unknowingly was a misrepresentation of the court proceedings that the "sealing" of court documents on Garcia was about how Garcia might actually be held in the El Salvador Gulag because he's secretly this really bad dude.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/05/06/news-outlets-kilmar-abrego-garcia-records/

When you look at this report, the sealing of court docs looks to have much more to do with the Trump admin trying hard to not have their dirty laundry & incompetence aired that anything which is why the media is fighting to have that unsealed.

Either way the court filings being sealed or unsealed doesn't really matter. We have prisons here in the US you can detain him in safely for everyone while he has his day in court like he's entitled to. There's no "well maybe.....'s" here.

The fact is you cannot disappear people without due process. Especially if you are here legally, and Constitutionally there's an argument in the text that everyone regardless deserves due process, and basic rights under the law. No amount of dirt getting dug up to justify what happened will change that fact unless we are at the point where we are then in a dictatorship.

 

Good lord your gaslighting is just so freaking sloppy. You don't even try anymore to be clever with your games. Hahaha... If Russia or Trump is paying you to be a keyboard warrior they need to get a refund. Your methodology is complete garbage.

 

FWIW I know you're the one saying "this has been explained to you a 100x" but to people who know what they're talking about, you're the one who isn't making any sense. The order was to facilitate his return now, not upon the conclusion of "serving time" and after he "gets released." It's not about "dunking on Trump" any more than Nuremberg was "dunking on Hitler." It's about the government's authority to ship you to a foreign prison in error and then claim (speciously) that they are powerless to bring you back.

I am so mad at myself for posting in my freaking basketball blog on this stuff given how I spend my work days. But the confidence-to-understanding ratio here is just too astronomical. God I know I'm correcting a teenager here or something, forgive me.

 

Yes - this isn't really about whether Mr. Garcia is a good person. This is only tangential about Mr. Garcia. This is about the Supreme Court ruling 9-0 that the President needs to facilitate the return of Garcia to the USA. The President has said he would not facilitate Garcia's return, in defiance of the SCOTUS. Now - the turn for some MAGA has been to claim that the SCOTUS either cannot enforce their order or that they are violating the Constitution or that Executive Power overrules the SCOTUS ruling. This is a Court that Trump had a large part in shaping - and he is still not following the Court.

This has happened a few times in 250 years - both other times were during time of War, the Civil War and World War II.

 

Answer me this: If Bukele said no, he is not returning his country's criminal, which action next do you think Trump perform?
1) Nothing
2) Full sanctions
3) Military invasion

Maybe you're late to the conversation, but note Garcia is an El Salvadorian citizen. United States does not have ANY jurisdiction. Garcia is NOT a foreign prisoner. He is a prisoner of his own country.

 

Donald Trump said that he would not ask for Garcia to be returned.

The SCOTUS threw the man a bone - and he didn't even make an effort, then again that isn't a surprise because he is purposely challenging the SCOTUS to see what they do when he violates the separation of powers.

 

He said he would provide a plane if Bukele sent him back therefor facilitating his return.... Its English bro.... We don't have to decipher $hit like Indiana Jones....