Killed for living a "Western life"

"I always figure when somebody goes after your motives, they're on their last leg, because they actually think you're doing something good that's gonna have good consequences. Attacking somebody's motives is the last refuge of somebody who's on the short end of the stick."
-- Bill Clinton

 

Wrong. The fact you post daily of new injustices perpetrated by Muslims while ignoring all all other injustices conducted that day indicates two things: you want everyone to share you hatred of Islam, or you are a plant by the GOP or one of its PACs and are attempting to sway the BBS into fearing Islam for Conservative Christian victory in the '06 elections. Either way, you are not acting as you say.

 

It doesn't matter how you justify it, just as it would not have mattered if I tried to justify it. You cannot spin this, you by your own definition are a hypocrite.

 

You are just as close minded as you claim he is. You have no room to talk.

He has never once claimed (to my knowledge) that all muslims are evil. He has consistently said that he dislikes the radical interpretation of the religion. I agree with him.

You, however, cannot seem to grasp this simple fact. He has never once posted a thread saying: "Muslims pray in mosques, another victory for the jihadists!"

All of his threads are about radical muslims doing horrible things. What gwayneco is trying to accomplish is to get some of you to at least admit that what is going on is wrong and to denounce it rather than explain why it happens.

When threads pop up about Christians doing dumb things, most of the Christian posters will say something to the effect of "wow, that's dumb" and not attempt to explain why the radical Christian fundamentalist bombed the abortion clinic.

 

No. If we're using correct logic, by his own definition he is evil.

 

If I posted every day about Israel bulldozing a camp, or Americans killing innocents in Iraq, or Christians killing Muslims in Nigeria, or the Hindus killing Muslims, or the Jews killing Christians, or anything. It would become a trend, and every poster would take it as I am anti-{group}. I could say, "Oh, I am only trying to inform every one about how evil {group} are," and expect those who are {group} to appologize, but I don't. The fact is, when an abortion clinic is bombed, it is usually American. When 9/11 hit, you can be sure every American Muslim felt angry and condemned it. Why? Because it directly affected them. But when a lot of people are killed because of politics foreign to America, it is that much harder to be as angry because it is not in your face. You do not see it. And most importantly, my religion has been on trial since 9/11 by people such as gwayneco and people like myself become defensive. You can say on a message board "Oh sorry, they won't do it again", but it doesn't matter. I have no control what an Egyptian does. Neither do you, so I would not expect you to appologize every time an American kills an innocent Iraqi. The fact is, this IS a deliberate attempt to slander Islam and Muslims across the world no matter how you try to paint it. A wolf in sheep's clothing is still a wolf.

 

Well, duh!

Do you apply this to yourself as well?

 

people kill people everyday.
there's just some dumb excuses why they do it.

apparently there's some loopholes in the Islamic cultures against women.

 

I think what Azadre is saying is that it would be the exact same thing to say that people may not hate America but they hate the violence that some are doing in America's name.

Do you support the violence that is currently being done in America's name?

By the same criteria you are using, it could be used against any, including yourself if you support America's violence.

Remember the war in Iraq was started by the United States. The Iraqis did not attack Americans, America invaded their nation.

 

This is just sick?

Why attack the poster, why not the article?

This guy should be hanged and buried in pigs blood to make a point.

Honor killings...my ass...there is no honor in killing.

DD

 

I don't beleive there would be any discussion or debate about the article. It seems obvious that everyone here would condemn the kiling discussed in the article.

Supporting those kinds of killings is wrong.

Moving on from something we all probably agree with, we get to whether or not the poster of the article would condemn other killings.

 

Just makes no sense, why would someone think it was OK to kill a girl, and it is stuff like this that makes the rest of the world think the Muslim faith is screwed up.

I am sure not everyone feels this way, but 40 a year in Germany as HONOR killings? WTF is that?

They really need to crack down on this garbage, this is a person's life, and more than that it was HIS FRIGGEN sister.

What ever happened to religion of peace?

DD

 

I agree it makes no sense. It is horrible against anyone, especially a family member. I think that it is more a cultural thing as opposed to a religious thing. It is the cultural norms that set up 'honor' killings as acceptable and not Islam itself.

I could be wrong though, and if someone more knowledgable than I wants to correct me, I would be grateful.

 

is it in the name of religion or culture??

didn't god tell bush to attack iraq? bush called it a crusade right..

 

Do Turkish Christians commit honor killings? If so, then it is cultural, if not, then it has a religious connection.

 

god didnt tell anyone to do anything.

all of these people, including all religions said god told them this and that.

that's total crap.

if i asked god for the winning texas lotto numbers would he give them to me?
no.

god=oldest excuse in the book to do stuff

 

The community and culture of a people who practice a certain religion may be one way, but still not be a direct commandment of that religion.

 

i know turkish muslims. all they do is party. turkey is like greece. unfortunately the crazy muslims are worse than the crazy christians.

 

Agreed that this so called "honor" killing was sick. Much of the world finds American obsession with war "sick".

DD I think you might want to reconsider your pig's blood remark as it makes you seem a bit like the misguided guy who killed his sister. I assume that you understand that what you propose will not lead to more moderate Muslims.

Also, quit playing dumb. Gwayneco posts nearly daily on the same repetitive anti-Islam theme. He is probably just a typical misguided dittohead, who thinks he is being patriotic. Who knows? he may not even be that racist, just an unsophisticated guy true to his upbringing, but it does get tiring.