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Kids Today: Better or Worse than before?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by cur.ve, Nov 9, 2005.

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Are Kids Behaving Better or Worse today than 20, 30+ years ago?

  1. Better

    10.2%
  2. Worse

    52.5%
  3. No Real Change

    30.5%
  4. Don't Know / Don't Care

    13.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. droxford

    droxford Member

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    I do. And I adamantly prefer a suit in an office environment. I've never liked business-casual.
     
  2. Saint Louis

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    I can't stand suits. Ties are the choke chains of the business world. I am happy I am in an office environment now where I no longer have to wear a tie.
     
  3. Deckard

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    Austin is like that. It's more difficult to find a circumstance when a suit and tie are appropriate than the reverse. The Anti-New York City, if you will. Of course, if one wants to wear a suit and tie, or a tux, for that matter, they certainly can. It makes for an interesting environment, in my opinion.


    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  4. Chance

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    The more dual-income households there are the worse behaved the kids will be as a whole.

    Parents should commit to have one person work and one person stay home at least until the youngest child is in full time school. After school programs should be avoided at all costs. When this is done generationally the trend will swing the other way. Day Cares and after or before school programs should be used by single parent households only.

    People should sacrifice money instead of attention towards their offspring.
     
  5. droxford

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    As we say, "more Mommy and less money." (though, in actuality, it would be fine if the daddy was the stay-home parent).

    1) Most people today are not wanting or willing to sacrifice their career to be a stay-home parent

    2) Most people today do not recognize the value in having a stay-home parent.

    3) Most people today are unable or unwilling to make the financial sacrifice necessary to be a single-income household.
     
  6. rhester

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    worse
     
  7. MR. MEOWGI

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    I would think that MOST people can't afford a stay-home parent. But hey, more tax cuts for the rich, right?

    The biggest problem with kids is the same as the adults. They live in a society based on hyper-consumerism. What they own determines their self worth. They are groomed to desire. This emptiness leads to the drug abuse and sex etc.
     
  8. Chance

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    The problem is when people say "can't afford" they are wrong. They too often have cell phones, cable TV, car notes, etc.. people make bad consumer choices and call it "trying to get by".
     
  9. thegary

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    i don't value the opinion of those that criticize the parenting of others when they don't have kids of their own.
     
  10. droxford

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    You beat me to it.

    The people who "can't" afford are frequently low-income families who are having to work multiple jobs just to put food on the table. Excluding this class, others can afford it, but don't want to make the sacrifice (which can be a significant sacrifice, especially for middle-income families).
     
  11. MR. MEOWGI

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    It goes hand in hand with the second part. What you own determines your self worth. That's the society when live in and it just gets worse and worse. It's hard to blame people for it when that's all they see. They don't know anything else. And churches like Joel Osteen doesn't help.

    And with advanced technology it is also harder to fix own own cars etc. Our parnets grew up knowing a lot about cars. Kids know a lot about computers. Most kids aren't even taught how to cook. You guy buy food from Wendy's. You are detached from the process.
     
  12. droxford

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    I belive the term you're looking for is affluenza.

    And, yeah, it's rampant in America.
     
  13. bnb

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    I disagree with this.

    They choose two incomes for a variety of reasons. Some financial...some not. Some great kids have grown up in two income, or single parent families. Really great kids. I try not to judge parenting choices of others -- but I do think it's a choice.

    SOME people can't afford it....in the short term. MOST could...if they made the necessary lifestyle choices. Not saying they should have to make that choice....just pointing out that it is an option.

    If a single parent can get by.....on one income....paying for childcare....then two should be able to get by....with no childcare.

    Just my two bits ;).
     
  14. krosfyah

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    The topic is about children's behavior. I'm simply illustrating to you one example how society's causualness, born out of the 60's, has translated to kids today. Need more examples or will you just dismiss everything I say because you have your fingers in your ear? ;)

    It isn't about what you like to do. It is about knowing what is appropriate. Children today seem to be particularly disconnected with basic etiquette.
     
  15. MR. MEOWGI

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    Maybe. It's not easy. If it's a choice of scraping by, being in debt, worrying about bills, I'd rather not have kids. People think they have to have kids too, maybe they are material possessions themselves, but I guess that's a different discussion.

    But they aren't doing their job as a parent if their kids don't have these "things" needed to excel in our society.

    They want to be afford the best for their kids. They must have a material advantage. The best schools, teams, toys, computers, even clothes. And they HAVE to take them to Disneyland or they are depraved.
     
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    I think you should remove schools from this list. Its ridiculous to criticize parents from wanting their children to get the best education possible.
     
  17. bnb

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    And Disneyland.

    Disneyland freaking rocks....
     
  18. MR. MEOWGI

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    I'm not criticizing. I'm giving reasons for both parents working.
     
  19. MR. MEOWGI

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    whatever.
     
  20. Chance

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    I have kids.
     

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