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Kids Today: Better or Worse than before?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by cur.ve, Nov 9, 2005.

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Are Kids Behaving Better or Worse today than 20, 30+ years ago?

  1. Better

    10.2%
  2. Worse

    52.5%
  3. No Real Change

    30.5%
  4. Don't Know / Don't Care

    13.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    You got it. I saw just about every group that came to town, multiple times. So many that when the "concerts you've gone to" thread was posted, I didn't really reply, because it's hard to separate one from another. It's easier for me to tell someone who I didn't see, than to mention those I did. I need to get together with some old friends and pin some concerts down. Allen's Landing, Liberty Hall, Love Street Light Circus... places I'm forgetting. It was what I did, mostly. That, and having a terrific time. ;)

    I'm proud of the fact that I was able to vote against Nixon.



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  2. rhester

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    I voted McGovern also, and those places- memory lane.
    I saw the Byrds in 1968 and went from there. Hendrix my favorite.
    Tried to go to every concert from 1968-1975

    1969-1971 spent lots of time at Allen's Landing. Head shops, black lights, lots of pot, booze, Zeplin, Stones, Beatles, Hendrix, Janis, and downers (Barbs) my drug of choice.

    I played in a band, did mostly high school dance, and parties.
    I surfed, spent lots of time down in Port Isabel and getting in trouble in Mexico.

    It's mostly blurred for me now. I sure spent alot of nights in the drunk tank downtown.

    Good old Houston, Tx. 1969. :D
     
  3. cur.ve

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    I noticed that kids today don't socialize with other kids (person-to-person) much anymore. I grew up in the 80s and remember playing outside and having free time in the afternoons to .. I don't know .. romp.

    I hear stories now that kids have so much extracurricular activites, classes, practices, homework, camps, etc. to keep them busy that they don't have leisure time. More so, the interaction that they do have comes through blogs, and chats and BBSes.. =), there's less of a human touch and because of it, acting within parameters of social norms becomes more problematic?

    Maybe society is expecting more out of kids, moving away from the Dr. Spock's 'kids are kids' mentality and more to 'kids are small adults' view from before, puting pressure on them to get into college, to work, to contribute?
     
  4. Supermac34

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    I'm only 7 years out of high school and I'm completely out of touch with most high schoolers out there. I'm still young enough to enjoy the same music, movies, and video games as kids 7 years younger than me, but its like the way they were brought up is totally different.

    Hey, I acted like a jacka$$ in high school every now and then, but I knew the difference between right and wrong...I knew when I crossed the line, and I understood there would be consequences for crossing the line.

    Its as if there isn't even a line any more for a lot of kids.

    Even younger kids. You go into a store or a restaurant and parents let their kids run around like they own the place completely oblivious to everyone else. Its a selfish way to raise your kids and it makes your kids behave selfish.

    The selfishness of younger people has really come out lately. There is no manners, right or wrong, or anything.

    My friends and I KNEW you opened the door for your elders, were polite to old ladies, behaved in restaurants....its like nobody respects that anymore.

    And what the heck is up with oral sex being like a normal part of making out now!!! I'm half jealous of when I was in high school and I'm half disgusted by how open it is now...AND the stories of this coming out of nice, respected schools. Oh well...I guess the best I can do is teach my kids the best I can and hope they make good decisions most of the time.
     
  5. twhy77

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    Dude this is so true; I never see kids outside playing anymore when I'm back home. There wasn't a day we didn't play whatever sport was in season (except hockey of course).
     
  6. MR. MEOWGI

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    And when they go to all these practices their parents bring chairs and sit and watch them. I rode my bike to sports practice. My parents understood that this was "my time" and they wanted their own too.

    You don't see kids playing outside anymore. I played outside EVERY DAY. But now we would proably just get stop by the cops.
     
  7. thegary

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    that's what's so cool about christianity. you can party your ass off with no consequence as long as you find jesus before it's too late.

    hell, you can even lie, cheat and steal. i bet you could even send a whole lot of brave young americans to their death for a false cause and still go to heaven so long as you have given your heart to christ. now that's awesome.
     
  8. bnb

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    Are the kids really that much more rowdy.....or are we less tolerant of them and more unrealistic in our expectations? I think it's a bit of both. In my neighbourhood they remove the basketball nets from the playground in the summer because residents complained about the noise. HELLO ---- You're next to a playground!!!!! We played road hockey on the street everyday afterschool...and nobody complained.

    And my mom never took us to the coffee bar and expected us to sit politely while she had her double-no-fat-decaf-latte and chatted on her cell phone. If she did....I'm sure i would have gone nuts too.
     
  9. thegary

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    i guess it depends on where you are meowgi. my block is full of kids, all day long, when weather permits and they're not in school.
     
  10. twhy77

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    You must not live in suburbia.
     
  11. thegary

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    no, i don't. why do people live in suburbs again?
     
  12. MR. MEOWGI

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    Big, cheap houses and churches. No scary people.
     
  13. rhester

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    I didn't say there were no consequences you did.
    I didn't find Jesus, He wasn't lost.
    I lied, cheated and stole.
    And if I go to Heaven it will be in spite of the truth that I was once an arrogant, selfish God-hater.

    I don't deserve the love God has shown me.

    I deeply appologize for coming across that way.

    If God chooses hell for me, I will be fine with that. I certainly deserve it.
     
  14. Sishir Chang

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    I replied to this poll too quickly and didn't realize it was about kids behavior and not how well they are overall.

    I agree with bnb and think there's a lot about our own perception. Its natural as we get older to look back with fondness on our own past and then complain that things aren't as good now as then. From what I've noticed about kids these days is they seem in general about the same and maybe even a little bit better behaved than what I remember being a kid. They do different things and dress differently but as far as juvenile delinquency or tantrums it doesn't really seem that different.

    I remember when I grew up getting into fights a lot. One was that I just got into fights but also I remember a lot of the other kids would be fighting a lot too. The neighborhood I live in now is demographically poorer than the one I grew up in and more ethnically mixed yet I almost never see kids fighting. I see kids talking trash to each other on the basketball court but maybe only once or twice have I ever see them actually fighting.
     
  15. thegary

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    no you don't. that wasn't my point. actually, i apologize if it was insulting as it was directed at the hijacking of christianity by the neo-cons, the religious right and ID pushers. i've got zero problems with you personally.
     
  16. rhester

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    I have no problem with you thegary, I am sensitive to what I believe Christ has done for me.

    It hurts me to think of how I used to view and treat God.
    That's just me.
     
  17. cur.ve

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    At the risk of the thread being hijacked by the other relgion/politics thread in this forum - aren't we as a society more risk averse now?

    The local news always has kidnappings, molestations, abuse, etc. of kids. Lots of surburbia are now gated communities where you don't see kids playing anymore.

    I agree to a certain extent that adults look back with tinted views.. but I agree with the poster who said that parental guidance is definitely a factor in kids' behaviors nowadays: part of it is not enough time, etc. to deal with being disciplinarians, and part of it is placing your kids on high pedestals where nothing they do is ever wrong and 'how dare you tell me how to raise my kids -- you don't know what i'm going through'.

    As a society, we're turning inwards and going self-help on ourselves.. and it trickle down into how kids are raised.
     
  18. krosfyah

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    Are you denying that society became more relaxed at some point after the 60's?

    How do explain business casual? Prior to the 60's, a suit and tie was the norm for any office job. Or am I wrong about that? Fast forward a few more year...you heard about those college girls that went to the White House wearing flip-flops and didn't see anything wrong with it?
     
  19. Deckard

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    Flip-flops and business casual? We ruined the country!! :p



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  20. thegary

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    dude, do you like wearing suits?
     

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