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  1. TMac4Life#1

    TMac4Life#1 Member

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    Ummm Kidd is in the same boat as Nash. Dallas is a team which basically runs. Dirk is no ordinary PF. Dallas ran much or the time. Rarely did they run a half court offense like we do. Kidd likes to push the ball and considering who we have in the starting line-up the only one I can see running with him is Scola since he was the only one who ran with Rafer.
     
  2. LewLLOYD

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    I originally thought, heck no.

    but at the right price, i think he would be good with Yao.
    Kidd is pretty big, a decent shooter, and can really get the ball where it needs to be on the floor.
     
  3. bjshot

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    Apparently Jon Feigen think Kidds will be one of the best additon.
     
  4. Little Bit

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    I agree with Feigen. I think that Jason Kidd would be a great addition to the Rockets. You get a veteran point guard who can run the offense which is the major weakness in Brooks. His 3-point shot has also improved dramatically. However, I don't see us getting him for mid-level money b/c he is wanting more than that. Teams like Portland (who is reported to having interest) as well as the Mavericks, who want to keep him, have more money to throw at him.
     
  5. HI Mana

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    If you can get Kidd to come here for the Mid-Level Exception, you show Wafer the door. Let me preface this first by saying that there is no way Kidd would come here; he's shown tremendous loyalty in the past, his situation in Dallas is great, and they can pay him what he's worth (I'm thinking 2years, $16m or so is what he'd be looking for).

    I'm not sure if you guys watched Dallas in the playoffs, but one of their most frequently used and effective lineups is running with Kidd, Barea and Terry all on the court at the same time; he's clearly smart enough and big enough to at least play passably on any wing.

    Offensively, at this point in his career, he's pretty much Battier; give him an open shot in certain areas and he's pretty much automatic; if you ask him to create his own shot, he doesn't have the speed to do it any more. He is good enough to run the pick and roll, however, and with his size, can be a mismatch in the post. We've also seen him work effectively off the ball with a small scoring point guard in a fairly slow half-court offense (16th in pace, Rockets were 19th)

    More importantly, he's become incredibly efficient now that he's a facilitator rather than a playmaker; giving you 8-9 assists with only 2 turnovers a game; a large reason why Dallas was 5th in the league in offensive efficiency (though he may have been a large reason why they were below average in defensive efficiency as well...)

    I'm of the belief that in order to maximize Brooks' ability on the court, you need a shooting guard who can also handle the ball and create so Aaron can come off screens and spot up occasionally and doesn't fall in love with his dribble. To maximize Yao's ability, you need a guy who can stick 3s and open jumpshots when the ball gets rotated from a double team; and someone who can cleanly deliver the ball to him regardless of fronting or zones or any other kind of "junk defense". And finally, to maximize the strengths of the entire team, you need a guy who enables the second unit to play small-ball effectively. Kidd is an elite rebounder in this league, and would really help out when Artest slides to the 4-spot, particularly if he's taking the place of Von Wafer, who's just horrible.

    Finally, Kidd brings one extremely important intangible to the table: the respect of the very best scoring wings in the game: Kobe, LeBron, Carmelo, Dwyane; they all respect Kidd way too much from the Beijing Olympics to go nuts on him when he's facing them up. You're not going to see Kobe screaming "Black Mamba" at Kidd like he did when he hung 40 on Battier. It's yet another wing defender, with yet another different way of defense, to add to the Rockets.
     
  6. Little Bit

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    Great post.
     
  7. rhino17

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    Kidd is not overrated at all. He is one of the all-time greatest point guards this league has ever seen. He is simply nearing retirement and getting quite old.
     
  8. rhino17

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    Considering th way these 2 play, your statement makes no sense. Bringing in Kidd should not end Wafer's tenure here. Wafer brings shooting, kidd does not. Kidd can pass, von is still working on that. They are completely different players.
     
  9. roslolian

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    I think its because of the salary cap situation. If we sign Artest and offer the mid-level to Kidd we won't have space anymore to retain Wafer. Even if we did, we'd have Kidd, Artest, Shane, Tmac, Lowry, Flight White and AB0 for 3 spots already. There would be no space for him either salary or roster wise.
     
  10. rhino17

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    possibly, however I think bringing Kidd in would only hurt the team despite his fantastic career.
     
  11. baller4life315

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    Not interested. I like speed too much to sacrifice it for experience and intangibles. Plus, throwing Kidd into the mix would kill Lowry's development. Lowry's ceiling as a long term piece outweighs the 1-2 year window Kidd gives you that doesn't put us over the top.

    My guess is Kidd will do something smart like sign with Portland or something utterly despicable like signing with the Lakers. Either way, he won't end up here.
     
  12. y2Joem

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    if this was 2002 or 2003, (even 2005, why not) I would do this trade but not 2009, Kidd has drastically declined....


    No Thanks
     
  13. Rocket86

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    Getting him cheap and on a short contract would be a low risk situation. He could still be serviceable and could be the veteran to help keep this team focused. ( mentally and physically )
     
  14. Marcus Bryant

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    a short and cheap contract works only when Kidd intends to give up the green paper for a golden ring, but the Rockets are not competitive as Lakers even if it happens.
     
  15. Rocket86

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    Who knows? A trade by the Rockets bringing in a special player might convince him to sign cheap. He is at the end of his career and winning a ring will be his motivation. He saw the Rockets push the Lakers to the limit without major pieces. This could also convince him that the Rockets are a Kidd away from the title. :D
     
  16. FLASH21

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    It's not a trade. He'll be a FA this off-season.
     
  17. TMac4Life#1

    TMac4Life#1 Member

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    Guys got mad when Rafer missed wide open 3 pointers. Kidd??? hahaha you got to be kidding me. Why Kidd?? :confused: :confused:
     
  18. BetterThanEver

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    Kidd didn't work for the Mavericks. Let's not make the same mistake. He would definitely sell more tickets and bring more people to the empty Toyota Center though.
     
  19. bluffkin

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    Yea I can already imagine Kidd throwing yao an alley oop pass. :rolleyes:
     
  20. engr_alex

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    id sign him just to keep him away from the lakers and cleveland.
     

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