rezdawg, you inspired me to speak my mind. Bug?? Are your being judgemental again. Maybe I'm just stating my opinion about your take. My "bug" is your opening statement in this thread is beyond my comprehension, and your rhetorical request for us to compare our family, friends, acquaintances to Iverson's life. How is comparing Iverson's life to our lives not the epitome of judgmental tendencies? Answer that, then answer what does judmental tendencies offer the "fabric of society." What does the fabric of society have to do with a marital argument between Iverson and his wife who he dated since childhood. Actually, those are rhetorical questions. no need to answer.
You are assuming that his wife is Mary Poppins. We do not know what she did. She could have cheated on him, started up her cocaine addiction again, threatened to kill him, etc.... She is from the same area as Iverson. She could just as easily have problems that rival Iverson's. Afterall, it is his house and he has taken her from the streets to a multimillion dollar house. He should have some say in things. Not that he should have tossed her out, but he may have done so to keep himself from doing things that could have been worse. Like heypartner said, he may not know how to control himself in situations like this.
Hey, I had a fight with my wife. Did you even know about it? No, because I didn't throw her out of the house naked and then go after her and her rescuer with a gun.... Iverson's wife could have used some of that ragged fabric of our society! I'm not sure what you are referring to with the rest of that stuff about my familyl. Enlighten me if you care to. I don't wish to scan back through all of my posts.... for something which in the end will be merely rhetirical....
That is not the definition of "brandish." It indeed is "waving it around" or "ostentatious display." Jones (the complaintant) said he didn't even see it. How would that qualify as "brandishing" or "waving" like you and R0ckets03 said? And if there is a different charge for pointing a weapon, grabbing it, or brandishing a weapon, then you are more than semantically wrong.
Just re-read your posts. I didn't mention your family. I said you asked us to compare Iverson to our life...imo, that is the epitome of judgmental tendencies to ask people to measure others to ourselves. If you are going to slay a celebrity with your "opinions of the facts that we know to date," and spout off the "simplicity" of what is right and wrong and what everyone's "responsibilities" are about being role models, presumably based on your "simplicity" of right and wrong, and when society doesn't follow that, it is what is wrong with "the fabric of society" expect someone to disagree with your take. You chose the personal morals tangent to this thread. Not me.
Okay, everybody raise your hands who think it is okay to undertake any action which the authorities estimate contains some 14 felony and misdemeanor offenses? Heypartner, you count.... The only real comparing I did is that I said it's not that hard not to be a criminal. That is some astute comparison!
Its funny how all this new evidence all of a sudden appears. They jump the gun on certain things and that is what makes Iverson looks worse than he is. Here is anothre article from ESPN. Stains were originally thought to be blood -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ESPN.com news service PHILADELPHIA -- Stains found in Allen Iverson's car, initially believed by investigators to be smeared blood, turned out not to be bloodstains, a police official said Monday. Detectives found broken glass in the Cadillac Escalade frequently driven by Iverson's wife, but a police official speaking on condition of anonymity said investigators later determined the stains were some other substance and were not related to the smashed glass. ``His kids ride in the car. We think that the stains probably came from the kids,'' the official said. ``It's definitely not blood.'' He declined to say how the determination was made. Police searched Iverson's suburban Philadelphia home and seized the car Thursday, looking for evidence to back charges that he forced his way into a cousin's apartment with a gun July 3 while looking for his wife. The Associated Press and Philadelphia Daily News, citing sources speaking on condition of anonymity, reported over the weekend that the search hadn't turned up a gun, but that investigators had found broken glass and bloodstains in the car. According to court records, police were looking for firearms, cell phones, cell phone records and automobile repair receipts. Police said Iverson's wife, Tawanna Iverson, had checked into a hotel on July 1 and that Iverson, apparently upset, had gone there looking for her shortly before 3 a.m. on July 3. At the hotel, he told security guards he was looking for a car with smashed windows, according to court records. He left without finding it, police said. Prosecutors said that during the same evening, Iverson and his uncle, Gregory Iverson, barged into a Philadelphia apartment and threatened the two men inside. One of the witnesses said Iverson was carrying a gun. Iverson was to turn himself in Tuesday to face charges of trespassing, assault, making threats, unlawful restraint and carrying a gun without a license. Gregory Iverson also faces charges. Two of the charges against Iverson are felonies (trespassing and carrying a gun). Should Iverson be convicted of a felony, his contract with the Sixers would no longer be guaranteed, the New York Times reported. Iverson has $40.5 million and three years remaining on a $70.8 million extension. However, the 76ers would not speculate on how Iverson's case would affect the team or his future. Allen Iverson's attorneys have repeatedly declined to comment on the case.
Not blood in the car... Chocolate, perhaps? Maybe we should just wait to pass judgment until all the evidence is in, huh? It's clear Iverson suffers from prejudgment because of his tough, street image. If he committed a crime, let him serve the appropriate sentence. Maybe its just me, but the police seem a bit overeager on this. The bloodstain that's not a bloodstain. Why was that important in the first place?? Nobody died. Also, something that's really been bugging me... Is it customary to impound cars and sieze phone records in most family disturbances?? Somehow, I highly doubt that if I supposedly knocked in my cousin's door and made some threats that the police would put a task force on me and launch a full scale forensic investigation. Highly doubtful.
So Iverson didnt have a gun and it wasnt blood in the car? Did he even break into the apartment or did he get let in? Did he kick out his wife or did she leave on her own will? Its sad how all the facts get twisted. Its unfortunate that the media tries to bring down certain people because of their position in society.
Being poor is not an excuse for doing wrong. And I do not type this from a middle-class home FYI. With that said, I reserve judgement on any human being, especially when all the facts are not presented and verified.
Give me a break! They didn't find a gun: can't determine that he didn't have one to commit the crime from that alone. No blood in the cars: no one ever reported a shot being fired. Didn't it just look like blood when they got the car and on evaluation turned out not to be blood? Proves or disproves nothing. Did she leave or was she forced out? I don't know. What about the nude part? That would be weird. What facts have gotten twisted? Are you talking about the accounts of the eyewitnesses? I don't know what Iverson did or didn't do, but my hunch is to believe the initial report by the complainants because it is not out of charcter with the guy to do what was reported. Evidence may be hard to come by because there was ample time to get rid of a gun.
Thats your problem. And thanks for proving my point. Go ahead and believe the initial facts BEFORE all the information has been published. Once again, thanks.
It is NOT his house, it is THEIR house, and she is entitled to 1/2 the money that he is making as his wife. Iverson will be judged and my guess is that he will get probation, but I also think that he will screw up again and he will continue to Mike Tyson it out of the league. DaDakota
As long as Iverson is physically capable of playing ball, he will. The NBA needs him. The money they make off the kid is unbelievable. Dont worry, he will be around for a while.
JR Rider was never half the baller Iverson is. Iverson has been one of the top 3 guards in the NBA the last 3 years. JR could have never come close to that.
JR and AI are about equal, both headcases. The only difference is that AI has an enabler as a coach. He does not mind AI shooting his sub 40% and hogging the ball. AI is the most overated overhyped player in the league. He can play but I would never want him on the Rockets, he is too one dimensional and is never going to win as long as he thinks he is the only player worth anything on his own team. AI, the answer is .......OVERATED. DaDakota
He single handedly took his team to the finals. One dimensional? He can score from anywhere and he is a defensive juggernaut.
