Kick BU out of the Big 12

How many wins does Kansas have the past few years?

 

Kansas is a money-maker in basketball though - numerous TV appearances throughout the season, deep runs into the tourney, etcetera.

What do Baylor athletics make money in? Besides illicit drugs.

Kick 'em out.

 

More to the point, without Ann Richards, Baylor would be in the WAC and UH would have been in the Big XII from the start.

This is part of the Ann Richards legacy...all this crap we are having to hear about from GrabYourGat U in Waco.

 

Don't let your buddy Max hear you say this!

 

Was about to post the same thing Major. The frogs have a decent if not better fan base than Baylor.

The HUGE factor here to consider is the draw of the DFW area and the hordes of Dallas OU, UT, A&M, and Tech fans that would show up.

Of course.... there goes your homefield advantage

I also like the Arkansas idea, reviving the old SWC rivals.

 

The difference is most major conferences' private school is an academic powerhouse.

We should include Rice, not TCU or Baylor.

Big Ten - Northwestern
SEC - Vanderbilt
ACC - Duke
Pac 10 - Stanford

TCU or Baylor? Please.

Also, Houston is a recruiting hotbed for every school.

Rice.

 

My statement about UH was fact, thus beyond reproach.

It IS a commuter school, and it HAS horrible athlete graduation & horrible transfer/retention ratios, poor academics, craptastic athletic programs (other than baseball), and utterly pathetic alumni relations & support.

UH should focus on graduating people and building their academic infrastructure - not worry about why Baylor & not it, is in the Big 12.

Baylor's football team sucks ass - another fact.

Their fball team sucking ass however, does not mean they should get kicked out of the Big 12. That's ridiculous.

Smokey, I'm sure that many, but not all non-BCS schools do struggle w/ athletic budgets - but the issue is moot w/ Baylor b/c it is a BCS school, not to mention a very wealthy, small private university.

You yourself point out that the BCS system is what makes this all so screwed. b****ing about Baylor's pathetic fball record lately is r****ded though - it changes nothing & means nothing.

You jealous that they get a "welfare check?" Maybe you should direct your attention to the proceeds from oil sales that UT and no other school gets. You wanna talk about welfare checks, the Longhorns have been getting fat off of theirs forever...

Again,

 

Oh, and now we have an Aggie getting in on the action.

That's rich. This crap happpens everywhere & w/out Dennehy's death, BU athletes would be happily puffing away along w/ their Aggie & Longhorn fellows.

I direct you all to the following article, from The Eagle btw, about A & M's oh-so-straight-and-narrow athletic program:

http://www.theeagle.com/aandmnews/anniversary/2tarnishedreputation.htm

Be careful w/ those rocks you're throwing - Kyle Field is made of glass too.

 

I know this has been discussed ad nauseum already, but I believe Lopez has a valid argument in this case. Baylor is good in one of the 3 major men's sports: Baseball, and decent at women's basketball.

Also, while its unfortunate a school has a tragedy like the Dennehy case happen, they have to deal with the repercussions. Baylor isn't bringing in money in football at all, nor in basketball. The two big money makers in college athletics. Plus, while I'm sure a number of students at all campuses have participated in underage drinking and smoking some sort of drugs, most likely mar1juana, it doesn't mean Baylor should get a slap on the wrist for getting caught. Bliss obviously didn't have control of his program and he was taking way too many risky athletes anyways, with past problems. Furthermore, the NCAA has rules for everything, and i'd be shocked if they didn't do annual in depth background checks on every school.

Personally, I side with lopez here. Baylor is the worst athletic school in the conference in the two major sports and its academics aren't any better than a public school like UT. It's a good academic school not a great one. I attend UT and I have high school friends who struggled much more than I did get in to Baylor. And I graduated top 5 percent out of 2000-3000 students, with a 4.4 GPA out of 5 at the highly competitive Katy Taylor high school(a public school as well)

UH isn't a possibility as every conference needs one private school to meet the NCAA requirement, but I would vote for BYU, Colorado State or TCU, or either LSU/Arkansas if eligible. I wouldn't have a problem with Rice either.

But baylor made it's bed, and now they have to face the consequences. As the old saying goes, one bad apple can spoil it for everyone.

While it's a good school overall, it's time for them and the Big 12 to part ways in the best interest of both parties in my honest opinion.

 

F*ck you too, buddy

Our graduation rate is low because Houston isn't exactly a school where people go for a monolithic cause. It's not a straight college town, people have lives outside of campus and that often leads to putting a degree on hold.

Poor academics? What's this based on? Slightly lower acceptance standards and lower average SAT scores does not a ****ty school make. I transfered from UT to UH, and I have to say that I'm having to work my f*cking butt off here compared to Austin.

Craptastic Atheletics? If football is all you care about, then as of late, yes. But as someone already mentioned, that can be directly attributed to being strong-armed out of the Big XII.

Did you lose your poor little seat because of bleachergate or something?

 

Of course, CSU, LSU or Arkansas wouldn't work since you need one private school.

 

Arkansas and Texas renew their rivalry next year. I can't wait. Many of you probably go far back like I do and remember me of the battles that Arkansas and Texas had during their tenure in the SWC in both football and basketball.

 

Neither could Texas Tech. When they lost scholarships, etc. a few years ago, they hadn't managed to be all that respectable in their athletics, other than Women's Basketball, of course (but Baylor's Women's Basketball has been good, too. Just not as good as Tech's was).

Personally, even though both my parents went to Baylor and I've had somewhat of a tie to the school all my life (and I did attend Baylor for almost an entire semester), I'd trade 'em for Arkansas in the Big XII in a second.

Any other school wouldn't make any difference to me. Maybe TCU since they're here in the Metroplex and that would mean Big XII games I could more easily attend. But that's not a good reason (and even though TCU has gone to five straight Bowl games, I don't know that they'd do anywhere near as well in the Big XII).

So, if the Big XII can get Arkansas, I'm all for it. Otherwise, might as well leave it alone (I'd not heard of any rule requiring a private school in all conferences. Does that then change this whole idea that Baylor was included in the Big XII only because of Ann Richards being governor? If they needed a private school, which the Big 8 did not have, the selections were pretty slim. I don't think TCU, Rice or SMU would have done any better than Baylor has done in football in the Big XII. And certainly, then, Houston had no chance since Texas, Texas Tech and Texas A&M weren't going to be left out).

 

Down with Gaylor!

 

come on Ref...i know you don't honestly think that UH would be an upgrade from Baylor. I know you don't think that because you've told me as much.

grabyourgat u? come on! you're better than that!

 

I've met him, so I'll assume he's funnier than that. Lame joke.

But what do you expect from a graduate of Iliketodosheep A&M?

 

That's what I was wondering. Can anyone provide a link or the text of the NCAA bylaws or regs that require conferences to have a private institution?