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Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Wants the Death Penalty

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by weslinder, Jun 5, 2008.

  1. The Real Shady

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    We should use a dull blade and slowly cut off his head while he's alive and videotape the event. Let's see how he enjoys his own practices.

    It's easy to wish for death with our means of execution.
     
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    As Ehsan pointed out, their colleagues attribute greater "martyrdom" to them if they are tortured. By cutting off body parts after death, burying those parts separate from the torso and burying the torso in pigs' blood, their fellow terrorists will think twice since Allah won't let the unclean into their hellish heaven. That is the message we need to send every time we kill a terrorist.

    We must learn to fight their beliefs with their own beliefs.
     
  3. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    No, I want to make sure he goes to hell regardless of the faith.
     
  4. weslinder

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    ^^

    Or maybe we shouldn't stoop to their level. Letting the b*stard rot in jail, possibly with photos of the victims on his cell wall, is still appropriate punishment, and (I think) a better strategy for a world power that's trying to lead by example.
     
  5. thumbs

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    I would agree but these are irrational sub-human beings only able to understand messages in their own sick language of violence.
     
  6. Ehsan

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    Hahahahaha

    That's not true dude. If Allah exists and (according to him) ordered that he commit this act of "terrorism" then I'm sure you can't get him on a technicality.
     
  7. Ehsan

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    I find this funny because if everyone had gone out of their way to understand Islam in the first place, this guy probably wouldn't have been taken out of poverty and been re-programmed or brainwashed to commit such horriffic acts.

    But now that you want to torture him, let's study the religion thoroughly.
     
  8. Ehsan

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    I think the best solution is to kill him in the most humane way, but do it in private and don't tell anyone.

    But before killing him, duplicate him and have him tell his little soldiers that what they've done is horrible (obviously, using Qura'anic logic) and that they should repent. Have them serve life in prison anyway.
     
  9. MadMax

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    i don't THINK Muslims believe in the resurrected body, anyway.
     
  10. Ehsan

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    I honestly have never heard it, but I didn't want to say it's flat out wrong because I haven't gone through everything and confirmed that.

    What I have heard (and I'm 99.99% sure is true) is that the exact position in which you die is the way you will appear in front of Allah on judgement day. So, for example, if you're cheating/smoking/doing cocaine and you die, you are screwed.

    Interesting concept. It kinda ties in with the "Maybe no one is watching, but God is always watching" concept. It also puts into perspective the importance of things like smoking a cigarette. Is it really worth it for you? What if you die with this thing in your mouth?
     
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    As I have said, I do not believe in torture. After he is dead, there can be no torture.

    I don't believe Allah -- God by any name -- would order terrorist acts. That's why I have never attributed these sub-humans as Muslim. However, the terrorists do have their own belief system, so I would do anything to corpses to give them pause about dying for their "cause."
     
  12. Ehsan

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    That's interesting because, generally, no one can agree on the definition of "terrorist".

    Certainly, killing civillians when you can alternatively NOT kill civillians is an act that no religion would condone.

    The truth is, you shouldn't make a big deal out of this guy. Just kill him and move on and show that he is not special, he did nothing special, and he will get nothing special. Move on.
     
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    My solutions is not reserved for the six going on trial. My solution extends to all terrorists (here, Iraq, Afghanistan or wherever).
     
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    Didn't you hear?

    There are no terrorists in Iraq.
     
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    Disagree. The terrorists are known as Al-Qaeda, Hamas, etc. Here's a few more:

    1. Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
    2. Abu Sayyaf Group
    3. Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
    4. Ansar al-Islam
    5. Armed Islamic Group (GIA)
    6. Asbat al-Ansar
    7. Aum Shinrikyo
    8. Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)
    9. Communist Party of the Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA)
    10. Continuity Irish Republican Army
    11. Gama’a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group)
    12. HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)
    13. Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)
    14. Hizballah (Party of God)
    15. Islamic Jihad Group
    16. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
    17. Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Army of Mohammed)
    18. Jemaah Islamiya organization (JI)
    19. al-Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad)
    20. Kahane Chai (Kach)
    21. Kongra-Gel (KGK, formerly Kurdistan Workers' Party, PKK, KADEK)
    22. Lashkar-e Tayyiba (LT) (Army of the Righteous)
    23. Lashkar i Jhangvi
    24. Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
    25. Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG)
    26. Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GICM)
    27. Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK)
    28. National Liberation Army (ELN)
    29. Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
    30. Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
    31. Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLF)
    32. PFLP-General Command (PFLP-GC)
    33. Tanzim Qa'idat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (QJBR) (al-Qaida in Iraq) (formerly Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'al-Jihad, JTJ, al-Zarqawi Network)
    34. al-Qa’ida
    35. al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (formerly GSPC)
    36. Real IRA
    37. Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)
    38. Revolutionary Nuclei (formerly ELA)
    39. Revolutionary Organization 17 November
    40. Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)
    41. Shining Path (Sendero Luminoso, SL)
    42. United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC)
     
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  16. sydmill

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    I gotta agree with DaDakota. Put the guy on trial, convict him, and right before you "martyr" the SOB let him know what foul things will join him in his grave. You gotta think these guys would think twice if they thought they would be screwed for eternity if we caught them...
     
  17. geeimsobored

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    I'm surprised so many people are in favor of some form of the death penalty. I guess I'm with weslinder on this one.

    I think a lot of you are missing the broader message here. A lot of people have spoken of sending a message to other terrorists abroad with these executions. I find it highly unlikely that it would have any unique effect on terrorists. You said it yourself, they're irrational and consequently aren't going to be persuaded by any action that requires a rational level of thinking which is what the deterrent effect is based off of. A lot of these terrorists speak in religious terms but many of their messages and intentions are more political and social. These guys are all about twisting the words and meaning of Islam for their own benefit. They'll easily interpret something like "bury a terrorist with pig's blood" as something sinful that we did since we put the blood there. You can't beat these guys on religious technicalities. You beat them by convincing them that their way of life is wrong. Martyring them is the LAST thing you want to do.

    More importantly, you're missing the even larger message. Throughout this whole campaign against terrorism, we've heard about the need to win the hearts and minds of the average citizen in the Islamic war. This war won't be won with technology but with intelligence and cooperation. And that cooperation and basic intelligence on the ground starts with the average citizen in an Islamic country. Executing these terrorists and then doing whatever you want with their body (for some sort of trick) is more fodder for the Islamic right to spread to the masses with whatever propaganda channels they have.
     
  18. Rocket River

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    honestly. . . why not simply let him disappear into obscurity
    I mean . . .even if we killed him . . .just don't let anyone know about it

    go on acting like we shuttling him around the U.S. or something


    Rocket River
     
  19. Refman

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    That's great. that way, he can spend the rest of his life in air conditioned comfort with a shrine of his "accomplishments." :rolleyes:
     
  20. DaDakota

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    That way works too, just let him disappear, but make sure he is covered in pigs blood when he is buried.

    DD
     

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