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KG said he was playing against the best in the league

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by freemaniam, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    last night they just had more firepower.

    hell if shane's 2 late (wide open) 3's went in we would've won.
     
  2. oneonepyopyo

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    If u dont be biased, you may find a way out by yourself.
     
  3. mlwoo

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    That's deep man. Maybe if the stars won something. Maybe if our "best player" would suit up for more than half the season and not "hold himself out". Maybe if our big man would call people out to their faces instead of in the media.

    Sure you have to respect Yao and Tracy if you're on the other team, they are our best players. As a fan, I invest time and money into the season, and if I think we aren't giving it our all or we could be better I can complain all I want.

    Tracy is a quitter.

    Yao has plateued and will never win anything.

    This is the worst thread ever. I wish I could give negative stars.
     
  4. mlwoo

    mlwoo Contributing Member

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    Is that a proverb? What's going on here?
     
  5. Precision340

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    true dat
     
  6. oneonepyopyo

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    I know you want Hakeem or O'neal, but what a shame. they are all outdated. I know you might want DH or KG, but what a shame, they are not playing for you. So you can be whining all the way down to your small cave but not being supportive. I know you are a Fun labelled 'Anti-Rox Fun'

    I am pleased you are not RA cause if you were, no one would be qualified but sorry *SS of yourslef..
     
  7. ReD_1

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    Charles Barkley must be one damn ROCKETS fan :)
     
  8. nreal2007

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    why would'nt KG give props to yao? Maybe because he posterized him tonight. All the yao bashers need to shut Effed up! Seriously the guy is playing through a flu against a triple team coverage. If anything we should point the fingers on our role players and coach RA. Why did RA pulled AB out and put luther in when AB was the one who started the sparks on both end of the floor. Luther turn the ball over trying to entry passed to yao and forgot to box out his man for the rebound. That was the coach mistake as well as the player.
     
  9. bbjai

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    I dont know, I just watched alot of criticism happen on this board. Alot of it is based on unfounded things. T-mac is a quitter? Sure thats a relevant suggustion if you look at his sample size of the last couple of games. Then you remember that he actually has a bone bruise, and a strained tendon. Mcgrady also seems to have the hardest time adopting the offence, which is sure his fault. But there really is no respect for him. Calling him a quitter after his awesome job of carrying the team last season despite no Yao, no Bonzi and a banged up Mutombo as your best friend? I didn't notice many people complaining back then. But fast forward to know and a bung knee people are calling him a quitter and no passion.

    Has Yao really done that bad? If you watched todays Celtics game, the Celtics team doubled him, from beginning to end. We aren't talking about scrubs doubling too, we are talking about Posey, Pierce, Allen. The guy can play, and he can play on a high level. His the reason why half our layups even got in. Yao Ming put all their centres into foul trouble, and if you watched the game they were reluctant to step up and foul our dribble penetration on someone like well Rafer Alston. He has an impact and a big impact all game. Sure he came up short against Garnett. But so did Kobe the other day, in a much worse fashion.

    You don't develop basketball chemistry out of a bottle. These things take time. I love it how people expect everything to just click. Look at the current rotation, how many times has T-mac played with that rotation? Where is Mike James? he took an awesome amount of shots when T-mac was playing for the first 24 games. Where is Steve Francis? Its like we got a whole new team out there right now. To put it on Yao and T-mac is ridiculous. They are at fault, but the way some people are making it sound like they aren't putting in an effort and are big pansies etc................well I just dont agree
     
  10. Seth

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    For all those saying "it´s not his fault" or "he is trying to adapt" or "he is being asked to do new things" let me remind you that the rockets are not inviting Yao to play but paying him 13 freaking million dollars, so the LEAST I expect is for him to adapt, to learn, and to take responsibility when he fails or the team he leads.

    The same goes for the McGrady that usually say "he needs the ball a lot", "his shots are just not falling" or "he gets injured a lot".

    Some phrases for you WORK OUT, die on the gym reinforcing your body, and earn some of the 20 millions that you are being paid.
     
  11. mlwoo

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    I think Yao is a good player. I think he needs good players around him to win. We do not have that. I believe Yao's role is too much. When Yao has to put the ball on the floor for more than one dribble, maybe not even that, we are at a extreme disadvantage.

    The homers out there with the Yao blinders on do not see that when you shoot 8-19 with 8 turnovers, you might as well have shot 8-27. Yao cannot dominate a game on his own and teams have figured out how to defend him, run circles around him and throw different looks at him every time down the court.

    When so much attention is focused on one man who can't even dribble, bad things are going to happen. I've always thought Tracy had to score for us to win. Now seeing how we actually PLAYED Adelman's offense last night when the scrubs were out, I wish we could could get someone with more energy to play in that system.

    IMHO, Yao needs to score about 15 pts and get 11 rebounds and be a 2nd or 3rd option. Tracy either needs to decide that he can play in this offense, and not dribble and not run pick and rolls all day, or he needs to get out of here. As good as he is he brings us down.

    I did not say Yao sucked, I did not say Tracy sucked, I just said they are not going to get us to the next level.
     
  12. JusBleezy

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    I agree with what you said about McGrady. I disagree with your assessment of Yao.

    If you don't think Yao is putting everything he can into improving individually and improving the team, then you don't watch the games or see how he looks after every loss. Yao practices extensively before and after games, in addition to watching tapes of the game. His problem is he has his limits physically because of his size, in terms of his mobility offensively and defensively. Yao is also the first one to say he failed doing something, so I don't know where you're getting that from. Yao is far from perfect, but if you are going to get on a high horse and say that he fails because he isn't trying hard enough, then you're just plain wrong.

    Your analysis of McGrady is spot on however. That is the sad part.

    One more thing that I just thought about is, I believe it was McGrady's second season here and the team was expected to take off that year. McGrady spent the entire offseason working out (or reinforcing his body as you put it) in anticipation of the new season and lofty expectations. What happened that season where he spent the entire offseason working out (reinforcing)? He only played 47 games, the least of his career, and we missed the playoffs.

    I somewhat believe that broke McGrady's will to work out. It's sort of like a, "What's the point?" type of deal. In his mind at least. He will never reach his potential with that type of attitude unfortunately for himself and Houston's diehard fans.
     
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  13. daddy cool

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    KG not only respects Yao he respects coach adelman as well,KG won his first ever MVP award,All star MVP when adelman was the coach of the western conference he played KG a ton of minutes in that game. They also battled when the wolves beat the kings in the playoff semi finals in 7 games.KG knows who he is going up against and he looked at our Squad from Yao all the way down to the coaching staff as competition. We just need tracy to get back and assimilate himself into teh sytem and we should be fine.
     
  14. Seth

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    If you say that you must believe Yao cannot improve, i think he can, he has to learn how to move better using screens and how to manage better positioning.

    I think Yao has been lately more focused on talking to the press than improving his own game to fit better this system.
     
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    didn't it take like a century for KG to get out of the first round?
    i just don't understand why some call yao a stat guy but KG is a winner and a leader. :confused:

    What yao needs to do is find wally szczerbiak and punch him in the face. =)
     
  16. JusBleezy

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    Well, you are wrong with your interpretation of what I said. Yao his limits means exactly that he has his limits in certain areas. Just like a center can not guard a point guard on the perimeter because of their size, Yao can not guard certain players on the perimeter because he is the biggest guy in the league. He does have to learn positioning in order to force the players on the perimeter to certain areas instead of them doing the same to him. I say that because I don't believe he going to become "faster" on the perimeter, so he has to use positional defense and force players to spots (and hopefully into difficult shots). In a sense you are right actually, I don't believe Yao will become better in terms of speed, that is the one area I don't believe he will improve. He will improve his body positioning though and it should yield great results in terms of defense eventually. Eventually being the problem that many have. Waiting is the hardest part understandably.

    Yao does have to become better with his screen defense. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "move better using screens" because Yao is usually the one setting the screens. Offensive fouls?

    You think Yao has been too focused on talking to the press lately? Perhaps he has, but he is taking the "responsibility" of being the one accountable for whether the team succeeds or "fails". I, for one, want to hear WTF is going on with this team though, because I can't figure it out at times. To hear someone in the organization is as concerned and displeased as I am, is encouraging. Instead of the "we need more time to make it work" crap that I've heard from Adelman/McGrady/Alston since the second week of the season.

    Maybe, they really do believe that. If they don't see that something is.....just off about this team, then I don't know what they have been watching. The team as it currently constituted and operating, is not championship caliber. I thought that was the point of this season. Perhaps, I thought incorrectly. It would be painfully obvious that I was if the organization doesn't change something soon.
     
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    “I knew at some point we were going to go with the lineup of Pose (James Posey) at the 4 and I anticipated me being at the 5,” he said. “I’ve been playing against Yao for years in the West. You can’t really stop him. You just have to make him take tough shots.”

    Garnett had to make a few, as well. After a turnaround in the lane, he buried four longer jumpers.

    “My gas was high,” said Garnett after the Celtics’ seventh straight win. “You play the best in the league, you can’t go in with low gas. You’ve got to have a lot of high octane. I fed off this building. These fans in here are like sparkplugs. I just plugged in and that was it. I didn’t even think about nothing I was doing. I had options. I took them. In the fourth quarter, I just went for it.”
     
  18. GRB

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    Mentally, our fans are soft. :D
     
  19. ibm

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    didn't see this earlier. but i can't agree more.
     
  20. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    it's easy for NBA players to toot each others horns, but last time i checked the only important thing is results. Unless they've added a new category, most popular team automatically makes the playoffs, or team that should be the best wins the NBA title.
     

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