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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jiggyfly, Mar 12, 2021.

  1. coachbadlee

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    I tried.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    No. Drexler also stared down at the ball when dribbling. Old timers need to stop doing this. Even guys who just played a generation before like Arenas and AI acknowledge how the current generation are more talented due to how now kids with potential at middle school age are already receiving proffesional level coaching and conditioning in AAU ball. Modern players have longer wing spans, far more refined Ball handling skills, better shooters, stronger, more disciplined on defense with moving their feet to defend rather than using arms to defend. A modern gleaguer has the ball handling skills of elite guards in the 90s.

    Drexler does not have no where near the ball handling skills that Harden has that lets him go from point A to point B at will along with Harden being signficantly stronger.
     
  3. Icehouse

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    That would be a relevant question if I were acting like he kept losing to the same Superteam every year.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    You obviously have a problem understanding relativism.

    Both lost in early rounds. One had their prime years during a all time great team in the same Conference and the other didn't therefore one had a signficantly easier bath to the finals
     
  5. Icehouse

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    You misspelled “excuses”. My level of understanding is just fine.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    You misspelled "context".

    Now you officially have no argument.
     
  7. JayZ750

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    don’t be ridiculous. Dre Lee was an excellent laser and his assist numbers reflect that. He put his head down when he was just gliding on fast breaks and the like. Even then though he saw the court.

    it’s impossible to know how a player line Clyde would do today. To me the biggest difference talent wise isn’t between guys like a Clyde and today’s future HOFers but rather the depth of the league. The second biggest obvious difference is 3 point shooting capability.

    but ABSOLUTELY the ha d check rule is EXTREMELY impactful. Cause it’s just way easier to guard and keep guards in front of you when you can hand check.

    but absolutely specific to a Clyde he’d be an even better player in today’s NBA. 6’7 shooting guards that get you 5+ apg year after year and can play defense don’t grow on trees.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    Drexler was a great scorer because he knew how to score with like two dribbles due to his length, footwork, athleticism and shooting touch. However he was one of the worst ball handlers for a superstar guard you'll see since the 90s. That wasn't his thing.

    Modern guards are all decent ball handlers at the very least. He would have to really work on that in today's game.

    There are dozens of 6'7" players in the league who can dribble better than Drexler today.
     
  9. JayZ750

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    first. No. He wasn’t one of the worst dribblers. Lol. That’s dumb. He wasn’t Kyrie or Steph today. But he wasn’t horrible or even close to it.

    but

    second... who cares?

    the idea that you have to have a Kyrie handle to be able to play in today’s NBA at a high level is dumb.

    Drexlers suspect handle for him 5+ apg for like 8 straight seasons (including one at 8 apg) and never had crazy turnovers or anything.

    there’s lots of different ways to play basketball and excel.
     
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    For a superstar guard he definitely was bad. Absolutely. How can you disagree with me on this? His game was off the dribble, quick one to two dribble moves shots or pass offs, good post game and otherworldly speed and flying ability during the fast break. Ball handling wasn't one of his strengths.

    Yes there are a lot of different ways and dribbling the ball wasn't Drexler's forte.

    Look, Harden has been more dominant than Drexler relative their peers. Hence the far more amount of mvp voting shares and more dominance in the playoffs.
     
  11. Icehouse

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    My apologies.
     
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    So in short, he was a bad dribbler who used dribbling to score a ton of points.

    But seriously, when clyde had the ball I wasn't fearing a turnover like when players ariza, lin, or gordon recieved a pass.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    ? No he didn't. I guess you didn't read what I typed? He didn't dribble much to score. The only time he did really was on the fast break and he was great at it not because of his dribbling ability but his end to end speed and finishing ability.
     
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    Drexler had an odd looking head down dribble and was pretty stiff, but he was extremely fast with the ball and would just blow by players. He certainly wasn't one of the worst ball handling guards -- that just isn't accurate.
     
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    ...for a superstar guard.

    Yes he got by with speed and athleticism. He also had really timely footwork. But again dribbling wasn't his thing.
     
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    Absolutely, he used a two or three dribble move to get to his spot and pull up. And nobody could catch him on a fast break.

     
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    And that's one thing that has changed with the modern NBA. Guys at Drexler's size doing very advanced dribble moves is very common now.
     
  18. Aruba77

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    How bout K Mart J?

    Tate, KMartJ, KPJ.... really enjoy watching these young guys. Tough watching us go down by 30. But add another couple of young prospects and a franchise player to Wood and the rest and we’ll have something legit to work with.
     
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    I've seen enough, trade him!

    He played timid after the second bogus charge call, followed by his face fouling an elbow. Growing pains. Even after that he had 3 straight possessions with nice passes for easy assists that were blown.
     
  20. KingCheetah

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    Drexler had solid handles.



    [Just posting for the highlight -- no idea where he got those ridiculous 40 stats.]
     
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