Oh and also Allen Iverson would never win a ring as the best offensive player on the team unless that team has some historical all time defense like the Chauncey Billups' Pistons.
My point is that it wouldn't be better taking the ball away from KPJ just to take the ball away from KPJ. Since there isn't anyone more competent to run the offense, that's how it has to be. As Green and Sengun develop, hopefully they'll be able to help KPJ carry the burden of running the offense. That might be a later in the season thing or maybe a next season thing. Not saying you are one of them, but with a certain group he's going to be blamed for everything no matter what happens.....and those same people would line up to make excuses if KPJ went out and Green and Sengun continued to struggle to do even half as well as KPJ when attempting to run the offense. The standard for KPJ has to be that he be prime CP3 or he's terrible, while with everyone else it's "hey, they didn't fail every single time". That's kind of the thing I oppose. I think the reality is that we need more movement off ball and more players making their open shots than a change in who is the primary ball handler.
Lol Curry is a frail puppy that can't play 80 games a season, GTFO with that. Myers assembled a dynasty. Donkey, Thompson and KD have made as much contribution. Never said Curry was mediocre but that is some serious d-riding. Oscar Robertson, Magic, Stockton, Kidd, Nash were better handlers. Chriss Paul looks like a better handler.
Nah. Every team has a best ball handler. Just because KPJ is the best ball handler on the team doesn't mean we have to create heliocentric offense. Just because KPJ is the best ball handler on the team doesn't mean he should dribble the air out of the ball and then dump it to a poor soul because he failed to get a good look from over dribbling for that pour soul to create something out of nothing on a broken play. What KPJ needs to do is concentrate on making the simple quick reads after having a screen set for him.
The goal isn't to have a "heliocentric offense" as you are calling it, they'd LOVE to have more than one competent ball handler, and I think in the future they will. Unfortunately right now, they are just too young and haven't developed enough to make that happen. It sounds like your complaint is with everyone else who just stands around watching instead of moving off ball and helping create some offense.
There are very few players in the league that deserve to have a heliocentric offense designed around them. KPJ isn't one of them. We are playing like that is our offensive plan.
Iverson is exactly the type of “superstar” the league has moved away from acknowledging as such outside of Westbrook because he was the highest volume scorer in the league with below league average efficiency. His teams were defensive monsters not offensive machines. Cousy played in a dinosaur era when scoring efficiency literally wasn’t even a thing and still was only about 1% off league average at that time. Bird, MJ and Kobe all had above league average efficiency and they too had a pretty good claim to playing in an era where efficiency wasn’t as ingrained into the understanding of winning basketball games. KPJ has consistently been about 3-4% below league average in his career and as small as that may sound to some, our numbers experts who utilize them in their everyday lives should now just how big that difference is. And that’s just compared to league average, not the star level ball dominant guys who are generally 3-4% ABOVE league average.
I'd rather give Jabari, Tari, Jalen more chances with the ball even though they (outside of jalen) would be worse then KPJ, to develop them for the future. Winning now doesn't matter, we aren't (and absolutely shouldn't be) trying to do everything to win games now, the goal needs to be to develop guys for the future. Give them some opportunities now, let them screw up while it doesn't matter.
Lol no way you just brought up Cousy as if it the game is anywhere near as the same as it was 50-70 years ago.
Again, it's not by choice, they don't intend to have a KPJ centric offense they just don't have anyone else capable of running the offense right now. Over time, Green should be able to do more which will change things. Perhaps Sengun will step it up and stop being a walking turnover so that he can contribute as well. You are assuming they WANT to do what they have been FORCED to do.
Listen to some of the Ben Taylor greatest career stuff and he always talks about "relative to league average". Having a 55% TS if league average is 50% is great, having a TS of 55% if league average is 55% is ok, having a TS of 55% if league average was 60% would be terrible. Posting that some guy 50 years ago had a worse true shooting is just so dishonest and ridiculous
The league has always had young inexperienced teams that are in their rebuild phase like the Rockets. Do they all have a history of running heliocentric offenses around a average playmaker until their young studs develop? Is that how rebuilds work?
You gotta give the young guys more chances, who cares if kpj RIGHT NOW is better at it (he might not even be)
I feel like we aren't watching the same game with the way folks that defend KPJ are going to bat for him. It's aint kpj's fault but everyone else who just stands around watching instead of moving off ball and helping create some offense. Btch, KPJ can't even spot an open man consistently camped at the corner 3 much less a player moving off ball
MJ carrying a team in the way you imply is falling victim to a 3 decade later "story" that doesn't match reality. When I think of superstars that carried teams to Finals with otherwise "weak-ish" teams, MAYBE 2 come to mind. Hakeem obviously. And Dirk. MJ had plenty of meh Bulls teams that flamed out in the playoffs. Then he got surrounded by all time great talents, and they won.q
Those teams tend to have the ball in the most competent young players....with the Rockets, that's KPJ. Green wouldn't benefit from being forced to run the offense before he's capable of doing it, neither would Sengun. Right now, KPJ is doing the heavy lifting for Green, if he just sat back and forced Green to do it all himself, his TS% would skyrocket while Green would be a turnover machine and his efficiency numbers would plummet below what they currently are....do you think that would be a good scenario? I think the disconnect here is that you fail to understand that KPJ is one of the "young studs" on the team every bit as much as Green or Smith. Right now he's ahead of the rest, so he's doing more of the heavy lifting. Hopefully guys like Green will be able to help with that sooner rather than later, but forcing it wouldn't help anyone.
The real great thing about Curry is what that poster didn't mention. It is the quiet Zen way of holding the team together with no drama. The camaraderie and culture he co-created. The way he neutralizes ticking bombs like Draymond. Not his elite shooting, not his elite off ball movement, surely not his good ball handling or the limited assists he doles out. Those are important but not why that team is still functioning.
