Kevin Mccarthy kicked out as Speaker of house as congress becomes paralyzed

Well, merely uttering the words "infrastructure week" or stacking reams of blank paper on a table qualifies as doing policy for these people.

 

Congrats, I guess, to Mike Johnson. Does the one-vote-to-move-to-vacate rule still apply?

 

I believe the single vote move to vacate still applies.

Mike Johnson is likely going to be another short lived speaker.

 

Maybe. Kevin McCarthy got outed because it was good business for Matt Gaetz. McCarthy was hated by a lot of the ultra Magas. This new guy doesn't carry that baggage so there's not much to gain actually axing him.

 

Without the rule, the Speaker could take the House hard MAGA. With the rule, he needs to consider whether he triggers a rebellion.

 

It's up there with tweeting

 

We will have to agree to disagree on gridlock and chaos being good.

 

yet, you're unable / unwilling to provide one specific eg

 

you have posted a lot of really dumb stuff, but this might take the cake.

the fact that you believe this makes it easier to understand why you like trump though since he believes the same thing.

any real leader knows that chaos and gridlock is a bad thing if you are actually trying to accomplish anything.

 

Chaos and gridlock is good if you don't want the government to accomplish anything. Personally, I am against most of what the federal government "accomplishes". Trump was the opposite. He didn't want chaos and gridlock, he wanted to do whatever he liked and was annoyed that he needed Congress to pass laws to do a lot of it. He wanted a streamlined process where he could proclaim a policy and it became so.

 

You are correct. Trump wanted a dictatorship.

 

thats a lie. trump said many times that he liked chaos. he liked infighting in his administration. i remember him saying once that he would often publicly counter what someone else said even if he agreed with them...he liked having disagreements. he thought it was a good thing. its psychotic behavior and totally unfit for any kind of executive position.

 

lol

 

yes, trump was an authoritarian wanna-be dictator who hates our democracy and our constitution.

 

Weird claim for someone who always complains that government doesn't do enough to rein in spending.

 

Gridlock absolutely reins in spending. Almost all spending has to be appropriated every year or every two years. If you aren't passing new spending bills, the spending dries up. Easily passing spending bills without opposition drives up spending.

You just disagreed with and then agreed with the exact same post. Trump said he liked chaos and infighting in his administration, but what he didn't like was anything that stood in the way of passing whatever he wanted passed. Take the wall for example. He wanted the wall authorized and built. Congress wouldn't authorize the wall, so he tried to get around them by using executive powers and rerouting funds from other things. Chaos and gridlock that stopped his agenda was the last thing Trump wanted. He was happy to be a contrarian and laugh at the other people fighting, but once he picked a direction he wanted everyone to fall in behind him. Look at his relationship with his generals. Whenever any of them told him he couldn't do something he pitched a fit. Like the parades for example. No one could reasonably look at the Trump administration and say what he wanted was gridlock in Congress stopping anything from getting done.

 

Yes, gridlock kind of limits spending - but Commodore doesn't just want that. He (and the MAGA people) don't want CR's - they want significantly less spending. There's no way to ever achieve that with gridlock and chaos. You actually have to have effective and proactive legislating. Otherwise they are stuck in a doom loop of wanting gridlock and then complaining that we spend too much. We've had gridlock for the better part of 15 years and spending has continued to rise dramatically, so that strategy isn't exactly working.

 

If they pass continuing resolutions, that isn't gridlock. Gridlock is when nothing passes. When the government shuts down. The rest is posturing.

 

lol. no i didnt. in fact, youre the one contradicting yourself...

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So by your definition, you think Commodore simply wants the US government to cease to exist? Spend $0 and shut everything down? Or do you think its possible he's using the term like it's typically used in reality instead of your absolutist version?