a) Rockets are a long way from being a championship level team. b) A dominant big man can not be "inserted". The whole NBA league could not even find one since Shaq. since a) and b) are not happening in 100 years, this expensive role player who has no role yet in a rebuilding team, has to go.
Taking over a game is far from being a gangster. Put it this way, does Ron Artest take over games for the Lakers? (i'll help you out, it's a "no") But do anyone plan to try to bully the man? (i'll help you out again, it's a "no"). Besides, Aaron Brooks is possibly the LEAST gangster player on the TEAM. He's not even 6-foot and he's about a buck 60. No one is fearing the little kid at all.
kmart is the LEAST of our worries. get off him!!! if we didnt have him we would not score......ok not really but i love his efficient shooting.
how much is kmart paid, i agree he doesn't create and that's a problem, great scorer but that's it. everyone else sets him up. when brooks is healthy, I'd take him.
Well, I'd question the intelligence of any fan that considers Martin to be merely an 'expensive role player'. Since I think you're only trying to use hyperbole to prove a point, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. That said, nobody in their right mind thinks we're getting the next Shaq here. It can be argued that we're a quality five away from being a playoff team. The point is there are options out there, however limited, that can improve this team up front. We have a smart, aggressive GM that's capable of making the big deal. I'll wait until after the trade deadline before I start deciding who needs to stay/go.
Dwight Howard doesn't exist? Or is getting to the NBA finals with Rafaer Alston, Courtney Lee, Hedo Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis as your supporting cast can be done by any center?
Well it depends on how you use the word "dominant". To some degree, Yao was dominant too... Those loosely used "dominant" wont win anything except getting to the finals. They are not that dominant. Duncan could be a dominant big after Shaq. Debatable but Duncan is truly a force. What I was saying is that finding a dominant big is 20 times harder than winning a championship.
Yao might or might not improved the situation. This Lakers team is at the point of crippleness you rarily get to play. Kobe slipping this much and we could not beat them this game. Just don't mention Yao into the picture at this point of the season, my last memory was a very slow super tall guy that would run down the shot clock on every possession trying to do his post moves. Now if he was more fluid and found cutters and shooters at this point in the season (having not being injured in early November), I think there's really no team we could not play.
Patrick Patterson is a gangster? Yeah right. I sorta agree with what you're saying, but boy your choice in words was horrible. Gangsters = winners? C'mon man. I don't think anyone would call Bill Russell a gangster. You mention OKC and Orlando, but look at Durant and Dwight Howard. What's their reputation? Durant is known for being quiet, reserved, polished, etc. Dwight is known for being outgoing, humorous, playful, etc. Those aren't things I think of when I think of a "gangster" or a "thug". Grow up. With that being said, I'm assuming your point was that this team has the intensity and toughness it had back when we had Landry and Artest. Yes, that was a different team with a different perception. Yes, we finally got past the first round and even took the Lakers to 7 games. But, we also had this guy named Yao Ming. You absolutely cannot mention the acquisition of Kevin Martin, and Morey's intended purpose for him, without mentioning how KM would work with Yao on the floor. The whole Yao situation really messed with Morey's plans, I'm sure. We can't control health though. It is what it is. Some machinery is brought in to work alongside with another machine to make the whole function better. If machine B breaks down, machine A has to compensate, and its function might change. The names you mentioned as potential draftees this summer, will likely be gone by the time we can select a player. These "ballers", guys like Irving, Perry Jones, Sullinger, are all Top 5 picks. Do you think we'll have a top 5 pick? I certainly don't. You have to look at what he has done, given the circumstances. Look at how Patrick Patterson has managed to turn out. Would you have rather he drafted Whiteside? I suppose you could label Whiteside a thug, or a gangster, if you want to use that type of terminology. He could turn out to be pretty damn good, but it likely wasn't worth the risk. To put it simply, this is a knee-jerk thread. I haven't been on these forums for a significant amount of time, but I have seen many of these types of threads, and they're very immature. Chill out, get a breath of fresh air, and leave the negativity out of it. I'm just as frustrated with the way this team is performing as anyone else. If you really do like the way Morey is accumulating assets, then you should realize that they will be able to net something really good. After all, the draft is never a sure thing. With a trade, we're going after a proven player, who won't make us wonder how he'll perform on a given night. We never know who's available, who our FO is talking to, and what kind of deals might materialize later on. Just wait until February 24th.
Martin's a second, or third option on a great team and is being paid accordingly. I would trade him, but moving him just for the sake of it is silly. Also, the myth of "Richard Hamilton imposing his will" on games in this thread is hilarious. 18 points a game ecstasy.
My god rainman the nerd within you is strong. Try to see the big picture here and stop fixating on grammatical discrepancies and various interpretations of the word gangster.
Amen. If we had a superstar playing (read Yao), Martin would be a great complement. He had 30 points last night on only 15 field goal attempts. That is ridiculous! Granted, his defense isn't great, but that is not what he was brought in to do. Unfortunately, if the Rockets cannot come up with a superstar soon (big trade or start rebuilding (tanking) to get high pick and get lucky), his talents will be wasted here.
u found a way to bring all the homers out good thing we'll get 0 in the draft and no playoffs currently homers gonna homer
You need Martin to attract other free agents. I can't believe people want to trade a top ten scorer in the league (who is not a ball hog). And we are only paying him $10 mil/yr. That is a steal.
When we're in the jungle from two different cultures and forced to communicate basic concepts to each other to survive, are you going to throw a b**** fit every time I don't word myself properly, even though you can clearly see what I'm saying? I mean the pretense and elitism of being in a society is all right once in a while, but you're talking with people from all walks of life over here. On the Clutchfans internet forum for men who like talking about basketball. I could be a refugee from Kosovo surviving on food stamps and GOD knows what else. So please, don't stick your nose in the air because the word gangster has negative connotations with you and your buddies. Big picture, homeboy. Big picture. It is infact, the opposite of knee jerk. I really want Yao to come back and do well, but you can't take him seriously anymore. You can't keep stockpiling a team with mediocre talent and hoping some team will think a bunch of mediocre guys are worth acquiring for a game changer. It's a philosophy that works when you already have the game changer, but one that leaves you in perpetual mediocrity when you don't. History has shown this again and again. The whole point of trading Martin and Scola is because they do damage on a team that already has a game changer, and can probably fetch the Rockets something decent in return. And instead of being a 40 win team, the Rockets become a 30 win team and have a clear cut rebuilding plan, with higher draft picks coming up. Although I doubt many winning teams will care to take on Martin's contract. One dimensional scorers who can't move off the ball just aren't in demand in this league.
This is questionable timing for this thread. -After a great performance by Martin against the Lakers, who are the two time defending champions and playing in LA you so crazy!
