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Kevin Durant requests a trade out of Brooklyn!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Spooner, Jun 30, 2022.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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    Gotcha. Still a pretty unlikely scenario.
     
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  2. dmoneybangbang

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    That just doesn't follow the reporting as everything indicates the Nets aren't looking to trade a poopoo platter for Durant. They want to be competitive.

    It took 34 games to make the play-in last season. Still seems very unlikely the Rockets get to that level on the backs of a bunch of players on rookie deals.
     
  3. mac_got_this

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    Westbrook can get a team to 30 wins. Hopefully they buy him out if they get him and go with a youth movement. We need to hope they trade for someone like MPJ since he’s injury prone and orolbabamy won’t make a max impact. And hopefully they trade KD for picks and youth
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Well I'm sure that's what they WANT, doesn't mean that's what they are going to actually get. I'm sure they WANT to win the championship, it's not going to happen any time soon.

    So, I show you that the addition of just one legit superstar rookie propelled a team from 24 to 33 wins and 34 wins is what it took to make the play in last season....so doesn't that suggest that they could compete for the play in game? I mean, if the addition of Green and Smith aren't at least sort of equal to just Luka by himself, it's a bit disappointing no?
     
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  6. dmoneybangbang

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    And I'm talking about what is more likely. None of the reporting suggests the Nets are going to take whatever package they can get as there is a competitive market for Durant. Also doesn't make much sense for the Nets to take a lesser package based on their situation.

    Mavs bottomed out at 24 wins, not 20 like the Rockets, and improved by 9 wins with Luka.

    OKC bottomed out at 20 wins during Durant's rookie season and got to 50 wins after drafting Durant, WB, Harden, Ibaka, Jeff Green, and Nick Collison.

    Not to mention, because of the OKC trade the Rockets are still incentivized to be bad. So in total, I find it very unlikely the Rockets will be competing for a play-in spot when it may take ~14-15 win improvement to grab the 10th spot.
     
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    Delete.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    If the Rockets are a bad enough team where tanking is an option, it says VERY bad things about the players they drafted.

    We'll see, but I guess I just have more faith in the Rockets young core than you do.
     
  9. The Hunted

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    Is Steve Nash sticking around for this experiment? Wasn't he hand picked by Durant and Irving?
     
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  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Not really, just means we didn't draft generational players like Luka or Durant or those rosters didn't have 7 FRP within 2 years. Being bad doesn't automatically equal a bottom 3, in fact I've argued elsewhere I don't think the Rockets will be a bottom 3 team again.

    Maybe too much faith. Interesting since you thought Green was Corey Brewer.
     
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    If Brooklyn somehow snatch Mitchell, it would be very bad for us.
     
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    they are not going to trade KD, nets asking price is impossible(2 all stars and picks) no team with 2 all stars is treading them for an ageing durant.
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    It's still hilarious to me every time someone shows they fundamentally misunderstood what I was saying back then.... so thanks for that.

    It's a constant reminder to not overestimate the intelligence (or reading comprehension skills) of my audience.
     
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    i don’t think that’s a concern. Utah is rebuilding. If they traded Mitchell it would be for picks and/or a young star. Danny Ainge doing what he did with the Celtics. Trade players for high draft picks and rebuild with his guys. Mitchell is still in their window so decent chance they keep him. They like him way more than Gobert.
     
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    I’m not that high on Mitchell, but trading him for the right to get Deandre Ayton on a big deal?

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    Ben simmons has to be traded or they can't get Mitchell, so it would be just Mitchell in new york with a ton of role players
     
  18. dmoneybangbang

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    No it was pretty clear.... you didn't like the Green pick and you prematurely called him a bust. Just own it as everyone makes mistakes in player evaluation.

    But by all means.... clarify your Corey Brewer stance for the audience.....
     
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  19. dmoneybangbang

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    Why wouldn't the Nets start off by asking for the moon? Even getting back 1 all star, a role player, and picks could put the Nets in the play-in mix.
     
  20. JayZ750

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    steph won like 26, 36, 23 games before they drafted Draymond and won 47 and more and more. Granted he only played 26 games that last year cause of that ankle injury.

    not that JG equals Steph but if it’s the same concept of rebuilding this years team can still be VERY bad and it might say nothing about their future winning prospects.

    KD won 20,23 then popped way up year 3.

    phoenix is about as long as possible… Booker didn’t make the playoffs till year 5 and then required a fortunate turn of events with CP3

    I’m fine with pushing for playin or complete sucking. Given the potential strength of next years draft it’s fine to suck completely. It is kind of their plan.

    Clearly 23/24 needs to see a big jump.

    more important than wins/losses is some positive developments on the court. Maybe. The starters have a solid’ish breakeven net rating but the bench sucks. Or there’s groups with strong positive net ratings but given development needs those groups are only playing together 20%, 30% of games.
     

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