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Kevin Durant Is Most Overrated Player Ever...

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Manny Ramirez, Feb 9, 2023.

  1. Manny Ramirez

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    This guy can't stay healthy. He was on a team with Harden and Westbrook (when both were really becoming superstar players) and got to only 1 NBA final. Then like the little b**** that he is - he leaves them to join a Warriors team that had already won an NBA title. Granted, he did make that Warriors team damn unbeatable but the facts have been proven - Durant has never won an NBA title on his own and never will. I have a feeling that Draymond Green is laughing his ass off at the failed experiment in Brooklyn. I'm sure there will be some people who will roast me for this but I don't care. Outside of being a hired gun for that great Warriors team, when has Durant ever shown that he can carry a team to an NBA title? Hakeem Olajuwon carried a team that had no other hall of famers to the NBA title in 1994 and the next year, he did get another HOFer in Drexler but at the cost of losing his power forward and they still won another NBA title. You will NEVER see Durant be able to do that. And don't even get me started on how emotional and whiny he is - with the burner phones and responding to criticism. Hell, he may start an account on this BBS to curse me out and let me know that I don't know what I am talking about, lol.
     
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    "What the **** did I do?" - Kevin Durant after seeing @Manny Ramirez teardown.
     
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  3. Major

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    You know who also never won a title on his own? Michael Jordan. Lebron James. Magic Johnson.

    Olajuwon is one of the few that did.

    He is emotional and whiny. A lot like you, in this case.
     
  4. Manny Ramirez

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    And how many other teams did Magic and Michael play on Major? Not as many as Durant.

    Struck a nerve, eh? I'll let you know when I get a burner phone.
     
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  6. Manny Ramirez

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    I guess a big reason why I don't respect Durant is that he is from that generation of players that want to give up when things get too hard. I do have respect for LeBron and I give him mad props for going back to Cleveland and helping them win a championship. He did have Irving but the rest of the team were solid role players. Jordan had to figure out things - he had to learn how to become more of a team player and get everyone involved. Once he figured that out, it didn't really mattered who played with him. Magic made everyone around him better. LeBron in his prime was the same way. I don't see Durant being that type of guy.
     
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    I don't really blame him for the Nets thing. I blame Kyrie and the Nets, the whole vax thing destroyed that team.

    As for the Warriors, isn't it the opposite? He could have just stayed with them and collected a few more but decided to do his own thing.

    As for OKC that wasn't on him either. They didn't want to pay Harden and that was on the FO.
     
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    Have never seen Durant ranked ahead of Hakeem, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Duncan or Jordan(or even Curry) on all time lists.

    Should he have stayed in OKC and likely never won?

    Overrated as a player? No, I don’t think so.
    Did he overrate Kyries reliability and still actually got pretty close to pulling it off because of his individual greatness?Yes

    I have never understood why we should give players more credit for being drafted into great situations where the franchise is either already great or continues to make all the right decisions once they join that leads to championships over players who didn’t have that luxury and decided to make their way to better situations. (OKC wasn’t/didn’t do that and I don’t think it was a situation where Durant directed that team to make the bad moves they made)
     
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    Where does Anthony Davis fall in this?
     
  10. Rocket River

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    Beta Way KD just allowing Kyrie run him.
    They building a super team in Phoenix.
    Watch.
    Cp3 and Ayton for Kyrie this summer

    Kyrie get his million dollars a game and probably a championship.

    Rocket River
     
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    MJ was handed Pippen, Rodman, Phil Jackson, etc…he had no reason to leave

    the Bulls won like 56 games and made it game 7 of the 2nd round against the Knicks without him

    Magic played with how many HOFers? He had no reason to ever leave LA
     
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    How many teams has LeBron played on?

    hahaha i love it. I hope KD wins b2b finals mvp and ties Bron up. All KD has done in his career is try and keep up with LeBron's ring chasing team ups. I love how any KD success makes lebron homers go into a craze. Shannon Sharpe probably destroyed his hotel room at 4am and Nick Wright ripped his hair out and bald again hahaha

    If KD is overrated then so is LeBron.
     
  13. Manny Ramirez

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    He won 3 titles before Rodman ever came on board. Pippen was one of those guys that developed into a great player but wasn't considered coming out of college to be anything and Phil Jackson hadn't proved anything when he took over for Doug Collins. Jordan made all those guys better than they were so I don't agree that they were "handed" to him. Magic did have great players around him but he really did make all of those guys better. I stand by my statement that Durant doesn't make the guys around him any better.
     
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  14. Manny Ramirez

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    Actually fewer teams than Durant. LeBron stayed a Looong time with Cleveland and then went back to win a championship with them. And no I am not a LeBron homer but I do respect him unlike Durant.
     
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    at the end of the day, MJ had mutliple HOFers and 1 of the best coaches ever…his team was a quarter away from the ECF without him

    he had no reason to leave

    Magic was drafted to a 47 win team that had Kareem, and then got to play with several more great players

    Why would they ever need to jump from team to team?

    It’s KD’s fault ownership didn’t want to pay Harden? Who can win with bonehead Russ?

    In BK, he’s been injured. The Nets fell off a cliff these past 2 seasons after his annual injury. Kyrie and Harden both got injured in the 2021 playoffs, and even then he was a toenail away from beating the Bucks and going to the ECF to play the Hawks.
     
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  17. Caesar

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    I see you fell for LeBron media narrative that he was going back home to fulfill a promise! haha dude abandoned Miami as they were getting older with no cap space, after failing his promise of NOT 1, NOT 2, NOT 3, NOT 4, NOT 5, NOT 6, NOT 7?!? Cleveland had Kyrie and tons of assets in an open Eastern conference with Miami falling off. It was strategic as his entire career has been.

    MJ wasn't "gifted" Pippen and Phil Jackson. Scottie Pippen didn't enter the league as HOFer Scottie Pippen. Tell me what he did before he broke out the first championship season? I'll tell you what he did in game 7 against the Pistons looking for a 3rd Finals appearance in 3 years. He **** the bed and went 1-10 fg and 0-2 from 3 and 0 fta for 2pts, 4r, 2a, 1s, 1to in 42 MINUTES! Ohh poor wittle baby had a migwaine headache :( You know what Jordan did with barely any help the year before? He beat the Pistons twice in the ECF. Pistons swept Bird, Moncreif and Magic and Kareem in the Finals. Jordan alone were the only 2 losses for the Pistons that season.

    All these LeBron fans wanna act like PIP came in and instantly formed the greatest duo. He came in raw and his training with MJ is what turned him into the Pippen we know of today. You don't have to look hard to see MJ's influence in Scottie's play aesthetic play style, just stiffer like Kawhi.

    Phil Jackson was an assistant coach and former player. Shannon brings him up all the time as if Michael suddely was gifted the great coach of all time. He had to come up and make a name for himself on Jordans squad too. The only one who was already established was MJ with his 1x MVP( should have been 2x MVP by that point and was always top 3 mvp race) an DPOTY and scoring titles.

    Horace Grant? You would be surprised just how close statistically he is to a LeBron teammate..Tristan Thompson.

    The Bulls in 94 is another excuse lebronies love to use. The Bulls in 93 won far less than they were capable of because the previous season they were chasing 70 wins. Anyone here remember that? No? It seems the world forgot. No worries, i'll give you a history lesson. The 92 Bulls were the first team really in that chase and the media was all over it anticipating the first ever 70 win season. They came up short and it exhausted them. They were in cruise control in 93 for their 3peat because of the effect of that previous season. 93 record minus Jordan = 2 less wins does not = Jordan not that valuable as LeBron fans will have you believe.

    #1 This was a 3 peat team that yes, lost MJ, but added Kukoc, Harper, Longley, Kerr and Myers, all but Myers key pieces to the 2nd 3 peat. That's a team that learned and knew how to win with Jordan pushing them as hard as he could for 3 years. They weren't going to just lay down without MJ.
    #2 Scottie's absolute peak season trying to prove to the world he can be a #1 and he absolutely showed the world he was damn good, but also showed he was damn flawed(kukoc game winner). Flaws which would show up very obvious to us Rockets fans in the coming years. This guy was no leader.
    #3 No one will remind you that despite that peak Pippen season, he could barely keep the Bulls floating around .500 in 95 before rusty baseball trained body-Jordan's return at the end of the season. Sure, they lost Grant to the Magic, but it's a much bigger indicator that the Bulls wouldn't sustain excellence without Jordan and Pippen as their #1.

    Remember that 70 win pursuit? A rusty Jordan got his first taste of defeat in so long that he came back with a summer of training and ripped off and got the Bulls 70 win season afterall...... 72, 69, and 62 wins, possibly the best being that 62 win season chasing a second 3 peat, 6 in 8 years, with broke back Pippen hobbled and missing more than half the season and (ending up only a decoy in the Finals) only a defensive rebounding specialist as his #2 as his magnum opus.

    Yall talk about overrated? Yall need reminders. All these dudes are overrated with context when compared to THE dude, MJ.

    All that said, put some respect on KD's name. All he did worse than LeBron is pick his super team up's worse than LeBron because KD doesn't have an investment in a group of people writing his narratives in the media and making deals behind the scenes to recruit. KD is essentially just a worse recruiter than LeBron.
     
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    He's overrated as a center piece of a team and as a leader in that he's not those things. His Twitter handle, easymoneysniper, is perfect for him. He's a weapon, a loner, and a mercenary like snipers are. At least he doesn't try to be anything else anymore.
     
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  19. Major

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    What is the relevance of that? They were paired with superstars in an era of less free agency and player movement so they got to keep their teams together and didn't have the opportunities players have today.

    I guess you could call it that - I tend to call out stupid things.
     
  20. Caesar

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    Nah. It doesn't work that way. LeBron has changed teams 4 times, same as KD. Going back to Cleveland was a completely different team top to bottom and counts as a new team.
    I see you're not a LeBron homer as i expected, but you respect him and not KD because you were sold the media narrative that LeBron was a hero for all his team jumping, but KD was a snake. LeBron started all of this and if he never leaves Cleveland the first time around, i guarantee you KD would have never left OKC. At least not in their primes and early 30s.
     

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