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Kevin Durant gets into argument with Stephen Curry Fans about his overrated impact on defenses

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by HardenVolumeOne, Jul 16, 2021.

  1. HardenVolumeOne

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    These Steph Curry fans are delusional man. They claim that Lillard and Harden havent been double teammed like Curry. Thank you ben taylor for creating a new generation of nba dumbasses

    Imagine trying explain nba defensive concepts to an nba legend. The nba players know Steph Curry cant carry a team on his own, he has NEVER had to go through the grind like the past greats, and these nba writers wanna say he is a top 15 player of all-time. How, curry is already 34, and has less than 20k points. He simply doesnt have the longevity. These Curry fans are still living in 2016, meanwhile players have gotten better. Look at Luka he been better than steph the past 2 years arguably, and Harden has been better according to raptor 538 outside of this injury plagued season the past 3 years from 2018-2020

    The players like Gilbert Arenas all know that harden is better than steph, its the these dumbass steph curry fans who sit around and play nba 2k all day and grew up choosing the warriors in video games that are way too far gone

    Check out the interaction.. For the harden vs curry part listen at 7:00

     
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  2. HardenVolumeOne

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    harden saw the box and 1 defense so much playing next to westbrick, he was worn down by mid january and went into a huge slump.

    Curry fans are saying currys teammates suck, imagine curry having to play next to offensive anchor like westbrick( who has brittle fingers so he turns the ball over way too much and shoots the ball ON THE WAY DOWN). Andrew Wiggins or Dangelo Russell next to harden would be a godsend

    Jeremy Lin and Ty lawson were other non-shooters that harden had to play with

    Curry has played with klay friggin thompson, of course normal shooters would look average compared to that guy.

    When the curry stans look at harden usage and say its because his usage is so high that why he gets numbers. Well he had the lowest usage among the nets big 3, but by far was the most impactful. Thats why he had a single season nets franchise record 12 triple doubles in just over 36 games played with brooklyn
     
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  3. HardenVolumeOne

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    warriors already trying to make calls to trade for dame lillard. the warriors must not think klay will ever be the same again. Get rid of an all-nba caliber player, and reload with another. meanwhile steph curry will get all the credit for the team success. Its the bay area way
     
  4. Jontro

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    they're absolutely right.
     
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  5. rocketseagles07

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    I don't necessarily think Harden is better than Curry.. especially in the playoffs. However, I do think Harden is more of a floor raiser and Steph fans are clowns
     
  6. HardenVolumeOne

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    they're wrong

    if steph is this great impactful player the warriors would have made the playoffs regardless of the talent around him, why are his advanced stats from this past season just all star level. Everything from currys win shares per 48, to his bpm, to his PER were just basically all star level. It wasnt this great historical season like he had in 2016. Not even close. And then the media rewards him with a top 3 mvp finish for missing the playoffs. thats gotta tick some nba players off. I know if im harden it would tick me off

    Harden's last 3 years as a rocket **** on currys 2020 season, and harden played with westbrick and an oft injured cp3( in and out of the lineup).

    If curry is so impactful, his team would have made the playoffs.
     
  7. HardenVolumeOne

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    Steph Curry has had an elite team around him pretty much his entire career. Klay Thompson is pretty much khris middleton or devin booker level and has bailed out steph in the playoffs a lot of times. Draymond Green is everything rockets fans think pj tucker was. Then you have a past all star like andre iguodala and a beast center like andrew bogut. Harden has never had that, Capela was almost never healthy for the playoffs except for the 2017, and 2018 season.

    The warriors this year had a good enough team to make the playoffs. They have amassed 3 lottery picks in the past 2 drafts. They have talent everywhere, curry just aint good enough to carry the load. How can you put him in these top 15 or top 20 rankings when he has never really proven he can lead a team to the playoffs without multiple all nba players in their prime.

    All the off-ball running dont mean **** if your points dont have impact in determining wins and losses. thats why currys win shares per 48 were so average. He was good not great last year, and certainly not top 3 mvp worthy
     
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  8. Jontro

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    dam you right. i stand corrected
     
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    sadly thats what they said abotu harden when he was the 8th seed, but how about it some healthy teammates and better teammates can take him close to the finals. Amazing how lebron couldn't win for 7 years in cleveland, then got some hof teammates and closed the deal wasn't a choker anymore. MJ was also described like that and harden, that he cold stuff the stat seed but can't win...a better coach/players also changed that.

    Curry was impressve this year. HIs team wass better, the defense was better so maybe his advanced in 2016, but he has gotten better he can create more and e was impressive. Their team wasn't good enough, including him, and its a part of it. but just like that harden year, it doesnt take away that harden was still great that year.
     
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  10. HardenVolumeOne

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    Yea im not delusional when it comes to harden I will admit when he plays like ****, In 2016 i believe that to be his worst year( simply because he came in overweight and literally played zero defense that year). But his numbers should have been enough for him to make all-nba. Bradley beal this year played no defense and made all-nba. And harden in 2016 was better in every major catergory than beal was this past season

    The funny thing is i DO NOT blame the fans and his stans as much as they are the result of the problem, i blame the media for NEVER critisizing steph curry when he chokes like in the play-in game againist a 2nd year player ja morant or when he has off-shooting nights. The way the media covers curry, you would think he never has bad games, and the only time he does have bad games is if he is injured. The media has never held curry accountable because their was always somebody to shift the blame too, whether it was mark jackson, or kevin durant. Hell i cant even post factual info on curry on reddit or realgm, or my post will not be approved by mods unless im shitting on harden, kyrie or trae young.

    Yea i just hate the fact that harden got injured this year, their is no team that could beat this nets team if they were healthy over a 7 game series. Now blake griffin, and Jeff green along with a few others like bruce brown will be free-agents. Harden should have at least 1 ring in 2018( cp3 injury) and then more than likely another this year( his own hamstring injury). Just terrible timing with these things. I hate it for james, because i know how much a ring would not only change his legacy but help mike dantoni's as well
     
  11. DonatelloLimestone

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    i get it, but you can't let the media be the barometer especialy the state of espn/tmz. they just stir and create drama for engagement, curry harden out there just continue to keep working and doing great things. ill let nichols and STeven A go scream about whateverthey want and get their millions for it
     
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  12. BHannes2BHonest

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    It’s funny because last year after the Harden trade all of CF was debating whether to tank or not … How many years did harden carry mediocre players to the playoffs??

    when curry is healthy with similar supporting casts the warrior fans probably debate the same thing lol “should we tank”

    no debate on this one
     
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  13. Salvy

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    What are they talking about? Harden was getting doubled team for entire games at some points. Harden is not a big as threat as Curry? Harden for years now has been the biggest threat in basketball, Harden never had a super team like Curry to bail him out. Why even argue with these dumbasses.
     
  14. rockets1995

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    Stephen Curry Fans are not listening. They are talking louder over Durant. These Curry fans are jerks, Durant wants to explain, these dumb dudes don't know basketball or dont even watch James Harden.

    Kevin Durant a Real Player is saying it is the same defense on Harden.
     
  15. TimDuncanDonaut

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    Harden getting double teamed... everyone on this board saw it. What happend to Harden a lot last year happened to Curry this year. Curry fans didn't watch Rockets games.
     
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    imagine some snot nosed, nasal voice casual trying to explain the game of basketball to Kevin Durant…
     
  17. DreamShook

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    Fans want to say "he dont even play basketball" when it comes to the analyst and then in the same breath want to argue the X's and O's with a future HoFer player who has played with both Steph and Harden, lol.
     
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    He was arguing that other players see same schemes too and not that Steph has less impact on defense than people think stop spinning his words
     
  19. daywalker02

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    Maybe there is a conversation to be had but it does not make any sense.

    People discuss a super specialist and an enigma of player in the playoffs and see who is better.

    Even if Harden is overall a tad better, it is arguable whether Curry is easier to build around because he is a specialist and his game is not as well rounded therefore making it easier to get guys that complement his shortcomings so to speak.

    Whereas playing off ball is not something Harden can do over extended time but it would be conducive to team ball.

    GSW has their system of moving off ball mapped out long ago.
     
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  20. PDJACK7

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    Forget Harden, Curry, Westbrook and any other player not on this team. Still arguing over things that don't matter in the big scheme of things. Time to move on
     

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