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Kenosha police shoots black man multiple times in his back in front of his children, declares curfew

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Aug 23, 2020.

  1. Andre0087

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    Once again, as a Trump voter you would know best.
     
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    You don't ask that question unless you were expecting to be shot. Notice he didn't ask "Why did they shoot me?". This guy knew he was setting himself up for problems by the way he was acting. I wonder if he feels it was worth it after-the-fact given he is now partially paralyzed? I guess when you have a warrant out on you and don't want to go back to jail...you act like this and try to get out of there. But, there was no escaping the situation. I still don't understand what he was doing...especially acting that way around his three kids. I don't get it.
     
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  3. Dubious

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    See, that's you problem. Racism is not something that happens before you were born, Systemic racism and economic discrimination have a cumulative effect over time, less education, less income, less equity build up for families make it harder for each successive generation to have access to success. That's why we owe minorities some extra consideration, because our Country did this for over 200 years, and still does.

    But I'm wasting my breath on an Ayn Rand racist who can't see beyond The Self.
     
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  4. Surfguy

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    When I saw a picture of two of the cops involved, they looked like they were college students.
     
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  5. Dubious

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    Imagine the conflict between panic and the demand to maintain authority policemen have to deal with everyday. I think this policeman felt the need to exert absolute control over the situation. But domestic disputes incite an irrational response in people I think. Something about the ultimate defense of family and 100% investment of your ego in that.

    I haven't heard the background story behind the estrangement, restraining order and he may have been thinking he was 'saving' his kids. My original thought was "why not just let him go and follow him, wheres he going to go" but I guess you can't just let a man with a restraining order drive away with kids in the car.

    I don't think this young cop shot Blake 'because he was black', he shot him because he was scared. Seven shots says to me he panicked. Would better training in conflict resolution have prevented this?
     
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    What strikes me as strange also is the cop who shot him was in no position or pose to shoot. He was holding the gun with one hand and tugging on his shirt with the other. It's almost like he just panic squeezed the trigger and, before you know it, seven shots had been fired. Just a very strange way to shoot someone.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    As I understand it, the officer was holding onto Blake's shirt while firing 7 times into his back. Is that correct?

    Since he was within arm's length, why didn't he just fire one shot into his butt or leg?
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You and I had the same thought at the same time.
     
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    Have to disagree. Seems like: you shoot someone seven times because you want to kill them.
     
  10. Dubious

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    same .... once he pulled the trigger he was past rational thought, kill or be killed kicked in. If me the pacifist or Roxran the macho boy ever have to pull the trigger in fear of our life, we are both emptying the clip.
     
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    Seems like he's just asking "Why did they try to murder me?"
     
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    That’s correct. The officer had a hold of Blake’s shirt with his left hand before he started firing his weapon by pulling the trigger with his right hand.
     
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    Yet again, if Jacob hadn’t acted the fool and resisted for a lengthy period of time, he wouldn’t have gotten shot. Listen to the police and 99.9% of the time you will be fine.
     
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    Right. He may have understood his actions were stupid in retrospect, but shooting him 7 times in the back was excessive. Irrespective of the domestic abuse allegations that have been filed against him.

    A lot of people want to find any excuse to shift focus away from the police and their actions. Blake should be arrested and forced to defend himself in a court of law for the complaints raised against him. The issue here is the manner in which he was arrested. To people who want to steer the conversation away from that -- if you're only prepared to defend the civil rights of "good guys", then you don't believe in civil rights.
     
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    Sure, let's shoot everyone who acts a fool in front of police and resist arrest, Southies, Mardi Gras revelers, drunks in Las Vegas, the mentally ill, mournful relatives at the scene of crimes, the falsely accused, and pretty much every domestic complaint.

    And this guy:
     
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    You listening bootlickers, Trumpers, Republicants?



    When did pigs become judge, jury, executioner?
     
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    Shocking ending.
     
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    This is the trash that cops have to deal with on a daily basis. People who want to press the issue by resisting arrest and not complying with officers instructions are rolling the dice with their life.
     
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