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Kenosha police shoots black man multiple times in his back in front of his children, declares curfew

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Aug 23, 2020.

  1. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    I'm aware of that complaint and I linked to it earlier in the thread. I was disputing the description of the police encounter with Blake, since it didn't match what I had read was reported. But it looks to be generally consistent with the description of the events from the police association attorney.
     
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  2. J.R.

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    Like, say Joe Gamaldi "We're sick and tired of having targets on our backs!" (oops) and his cops were the corrupt ones.

    Of course the shady Police Unions are going to back their officers.


    https://www.cbs58.com/news/man-who-...hooting-says-hes-traumatized-and-cannot-sleep

    What White saw

    Kenosha officers were called to a domestic incident about 5:11 p.m. Sunday, police said. The shooting unfolded on a residential street packed with apartment buildings.

    White says he saw Blake get of a his truck and approach his son, who was on the lawn. Blake told his son to get into the truck while Blake walked into the apartment building behind a woman who was outside.

    After stepping away and coming back, White said the scene drastically changed. Police were wrestling with Blake.

    "One of them had him in a headlock and was punching him in his ribs, the other had him in a headlock on the other side of him and was pulling his arm," White told CNN.

    "After they punched him in his rib, the female officer Tased him and Jacob kind of leaned on the car and they proceeded to wrestle him toward the back of the car and he went to the other side of the car. When they were on the other side of the car on the ground, I had to pick up my camera and start recording."

    That's where the video starts. The clip shows a Black man walking around the front of a gray SUV with two officers a step or two behind him, one with his weapon trained on the man's back. As the Black man enters the driver side door of his car, the nearest officer grabs the tail of his tank top and seven shots are heard.

    The man entering the car appears to go limp. A sustained car horn blares. A woman nearby jumps up and down, apparently in anguish.

    "The officer that shot him, he got on his knees," White told CNN. "He was trying to help him. He put his blue gloves on. Backup came. The other officers tried to help him."

    White said he was angry and traumatized by what he recorded, adding that he was unable to sleep Sunday.
     
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  3. jiggyfly

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    Thats a lot of words too still not answer the questions I have asked.

    I don't understand why you keep dodging the question of why would they leave him having a knife in his hand out of the report?

    What's so hard about that simple question?
     
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    So wait are they trying to say he was armed with the knife before they tased him and he still had it after the fact?

    Really?
     
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    Seems like he hates democracy, especially the part about due process...:rolleyes:
     
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  6. durvasa

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    Why would they include something in a report that they don’t know to be true?
     
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  7. Mr.Scarface

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    Due Process. I don’t care who it is.
     
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    "Why did they shoot me so many times dad?? Because you acted like a dumb **** son.
     
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  9. DVauthrin

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    Who do you think supplied the information for the press release from the Wisconsin Department of Justice? It certainly wasn’t Blake’s attorney. Those details came from either the police report or law enforcement officials at the scene. Considering the source of the information, if the police officers on the scene saw Blake pull a knife out, that detail certainly would have been mentioned in the Wisconsin DOJ press release.
     
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  10. amaru

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    Didn’t Europeans and White Americans wage two global wars that caused insane amounts of destruction and death?
     
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  11. durvasa

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    If they were all certain he had a knife, yes. If there was any doubt about it, perhaps not. A witness said at least one of the cops told him to drop the knife, which indicates at least one of them believed he had a knife in his hand, or at least something that looked like a knife.
     
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  12. DVauthrin

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    Either the officers on the scene were interviewed to provide their side of the story for the press release, or the Wisconsin DOJ was given the police report, instead. If any of the three police officers on the scene said they saw Blake holding a knife at some point during the incident, that detail would have been included in the press release and attributed to the officer that provided it. The way the press release is written indicates the officers in question never saw Blake holding the knife prior to finding it on the floorboard of the vehicle.

    Also, if the officers on the scene weren’t certain he had a weapon, then there is no excuse for them not to try to tackle Blake before he ever reaches the vehicle because they didn’t know whether he was armed or not.
     
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    Tojo sends his regards.
     
  14. Senator

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    What does that have to do with African tribal leaders selling millions into slavery? Is that who BLM is really angry with?

    The truth is, the behavior and victimization culture of AA's today would not be allowed in Africa today. Where else can you get away with 5 kids, no income, repeated criminal activity, committing crimes over and over again to force officers to make decisions .. and somehow blaming everyone else?
     
  15. Senator

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    That's exactly my point --- nothing is owed to you because of things that happened before you were born. Illegals climb over each other to come here and work and for some reason never want to go back despite not having any rights at all... America must be doing something right to be the land of immigrants.
     
  16. Senator

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    Pretty simple.

    No white person would complain if a white person did this.

    No hispanic would complain if a hispanic did this.

    No asian would...

    It's very clear this is a cultural attitude that no one in the media has the courage to address. The cowards on here who keep making excuses for repeated criminal activity (sexual, physical) , then go and talk about listening to survivors of sexual assault, metoo, then worship Kobe, then talk about evil white people... are so confused and full of hate , they don't know what to do in life other than be angry.
     
  17. sirbaihu

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    You don't get it on a basic level. It's not about "owing" something; it's about fixing something.
    We got the most spoiled-ass rich adult children in the White House, and you say the past doesn't matter. Trump would simply be lard without his Daddy.
     
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  18. rocketsjudoka

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    I agree that the LE tactics are in the risk management business prosecutors and jury's have accepted that risks for the most part. Unfortunately there have been a lot of shootings / killings of unarmed black men in many cases the LEO have not even been arrested. This is a case where there is a real weapon and no clear view of exactly what the LEO saw at the moment of shooting. In the Philando Castile while he was armed there was no solid evidence that he was reaching for his weapon or the Yanez was under any threat. In fact Castile told Yanez that he wasn't reaching for his weapon. That still didn't stop a jury from accepting his argument that he had a reasonable fear for his life.
     
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    Once again, it’s easier to fool somebody that convince them they were fooled.

    as the facts come out, this one is feeling the Ferguson lie all over again.
     
  20. durvasa

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    I would agree with you if the release otherwise included claims by the officers that are under investigation, but it doesn’t. It sticks only to the known facts. The officers are claiming they believed he had a knife beforehand. There is some doubt over whether that is true, or just something they are saying after the fact to make their actions appear more reasonable. This isn’t a press release coming from the officers or their reps. It’s coming from a body that is tasked with investigating the actions of the officers. They can’t just take the officers at their word.
     
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