string MangoDis (who) { if (who = heypartner | | heypartner*) return you_re_right; else return you_re_a_geek; // error: Exit more abrubtly than Bill Gates exit(CLUTCH_IS_A_GEEK); } ------------------ The farther the Rockets move down the standings, the farther I move down the bleachers.
#define FIZER_DRAFT_POSITION ??? Mango ------------------ It could be worse ....... you could have been born a Jazz fan!!!!
I originally said he was a steal at 10-13...go check my first thread. Then I got the scouting report I posted...he may still be a 10+...but from what I've seen this tourny in rebounding and when he's been guarded....I would seriously take offers at #6. If you want Fizer...trade down. I will bet with anyone here that Fizer goes no higher than Fortson did at #10!! And remember...Fortson's year did not include many HSers. ------------------ The farther the Rockets move down the standings, the farther I move down the bleachers.
heypartner, I remember that posting well and your early reports said he could play some "3" at times. I agree that he is a mid-first round because he does not have major hops and he does not have the height to play the "4" against the taller PF. So, after several rounds of the NCAA done, the Rockets draft plan should be? Mango ps Does "Rain Clouds" mean anything to you? ------------------ It could be worse ....... you could have been born a Jazz fan!!!! [This message has been edited by Mango (edited March 25, 2000).]
E.J. Tucker: First of all your commercial sucked, that's why there was only one. Just kidding. Najera doesn't get special treatment from the refs and neither do the Jazz. I used to think that Utah always got all the calls but have come to realize that I was just being an extreme Rocket homer when I know the Rocks get away with fouls just like every team in the NBA. Najera gets calls but so do others in the Big 12. To be specific Najera gets thrown to the ground against Mizzou in the Big 12 Tourney by Clarence Gilbert and the guy gets a measley personal foul called when he clearly should've been tossed. It was unbefreakinglievable, the guy grabbed Ed and slammed him to the ground and got a sissy foul called. If Najera gets away with murder then so do Mihm, Muoneke, Fizer, Mason, and the list goes on and on and on. It's pretty weak to say that Ed gets special treament when others get same treatment. I would say when UT shoots 40 FT to OU's 15 when they played in Austin that Ed was getting far from star-treatment and your arguement is weak. P.S. The game against the Magic showed some of the weaknesses of KT and Mobley as the Magic kicked the Rock's a$$ on the boards and Mobley "played" with the ball like a toddler at recess. ------------------
Heypartner, don't start betting on who's going where without knowing who's coming out. The more you say, the more deeper the hole you're digging. That's my advice. Mango, I would say they would first entertain offers if Fizer is available as they do not need Kenny and him. If not, they would take a hard look at Mo Pete. If nothing works out, trade the pick down, up, or away. Soone, I know you like Najera a lot but be prepared that the Rockets will not select him. Our first is too high, our second is too low, so pray that Orlando or Detriot gives us their pick. Anyways, I still think Pete Mickeal is better choice than Najera any day. ------------------ Check out the best source for draft info. Draftsource.net [This message has been edited by rocketsfan34 (edited March 26, 2000).]
KT still needs work, but he has had a pretty good rookie season. Najera vs. KT? puh-leaze. Najera couldnt even handle Brian Cardinal. ------------------ Not only am I president of the WaltWizFanClub, I'm also the member. Oh yeah, and Houston Rocks,RM95,TexSalsa and Shanna.
Oh I know the chances of him going to Houston are slim, but I'm just defending him against rediculous arguements that he gets special treatment from refs. You're right, Pete Mickeal is good. BTW, I want the Rocks to pick Martin if possible and if not Martin then Fizer. ------------------
Where's Najera supposed to play in the NBA? Is he a SF? If so, I think that he lacks the speed and quickness to defend. He might still be able to post-up, but he won't be taking many NBA SF's to the hole consistently. He has good form on his shot, but he hasn't shot well from the outside this year, I don't think (could be wrong about that). It MIGHT turn out that Najera will turn into a poor man's Austin Croshere. This may appear to be a pretty good deal, seeing as how Croshere is kicking tail up in Indiana. But then you realize that Croshere is a poor man's version of some other player and you start to wonder if that's a good thing afterall. SooneRock, your comparison between KT and Najera on the boards may seem, in frustration, valid. KT isn't a dominant rebounder and hasn't impressed me with his with his conditioning or his tenacity. But Najera isn't even a dominant college rebounder, so I can see how some people take that statement as a sign of being a homer. Maybe you see something about that kid that others don't, but to simply say that Najera would kick KT's @!%$ on the boards...I disagree. I think that Thomas has potential if he will make reasonable (meaning the type that can be expected of most first rounders between their rookie year and their second) improvements in the areas of conditioning and rebounding tenacity. However, KT needs to drastically improve his defensive game to be a starter in the league. Just my two cents. ------------------ [This message has been edited by triplebogey (edited March 26, 2000).]
Marcus Fizer is 6'-8" tall and when you look at his wingspan he plays more like he is 6'-10" or more. I can see him playing like Corliss Williamson but better in the NBA. Eduardo Najera = Jason Sasser without the illustrious tournament victories (the best thing you can say is that they both play with a lot of heart). I don't know about Mihm. I think he might be very good in the NBA. The current criticism because of UT's tournament loss is a little harsh. I think he just needs to learn a lot on offense. There is currently no way that he could take a game over on offense like Fizer. Thomas can play pretty good D sometimes. He has great hands and seems to deflect a lot of passes when he is aggressive. [This message has been edited by Doctor Robert (edited March 26, 2000).]
Look I will say it now. FIZER will be a SUPERSTAR in the NBA. Why? Because he has the right WIN AT ALL COSTS attitude. Fizer will be better then Mihm, Martin, or anyone else that comes out this year. Fizer is an incredible talent. The only thing that could stop him is injury. DaDakota PS Fizer is only a junior as is Mihm, they both may stay. ------------------
RF34...Absolutely correct. I'm not predicting anything. I hoping for a trade down if we can't get Kenyon. Mango, I didn't really mean playing Fizer and SF, more to just not worry about even having a SF. Also, if Fizer is explosive, you could play some center-less minutes to get one of them on mismatch on a center as well. The idea is to watch Fizer and KT for one year and trade the lesser of the two. My last Fizer comment, directed at no one: HE IS NOT 6'7" much less 6'8" I saw him get pushed around on rebounds. Many shots are open shots, hard to value those in draft terms. He never really showed me a move other than straight to the hoop. So, I can't really say. --------------- Ignore all Heypartner predictions about NCAA players. He promised me he wouldn't watch any games, in a trade for me allowing him to buy Rocket's season tickets. ---HP's s.o.
I haven't been a big Fizer fan (although I should be), so I don't know that much. My 6'-8" comment was based on what he is listed at on Yahoo Sports, which everyone knows can be adjusted to what players and coaches would like people to think. My honest opinion would be 6'-8" though just from watching him in a few games. [This message has been edited by Doctor Robert (edited March 26, 2000).]
he looks inches tall on my little television set. ------------------ The farther the Rockets move down the standings, the farther I move down the bleachers.
Fizer better than Martin? LOL...I won't start...I'll let Francis3 do the work. ------------------ Check out the best source for draft info. Draftsource.net
Fizer is nothing near to Martin. Its like comparing Drew to Francis. First of all Martin undertstands how to win and Fizer is not well at that. Fizer has a pretty nice inside game but he doesnt play defense all the time. He always tries to rest in the middle of the game on defense, and martin doesnt. Kenyon is the real deal MARTINFIELD and I think the rockets should do whatever they can to get him. So dont ever say anyone is better than Martin because no one is. ------------------ President of the Moochie Norris FAN CLUB
