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Kenny Thomas Going to Toronto?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MacBeth, Sep 28, 2002.

  1. Hottoddie

    Hottoddie Member

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    Taking Dream back might be the only way to acquire MoPete. Toronto doesn't have a center worth speaking of right now & Cato would give them just that. If Heypartner is correct & Ming becomes the starter right away, then Cato will be relegated to the backup role. Top that off with the earlier reports that Griffin has worked on developing a low post game & you could see Griffin playing more minutes at the 5, thus pushing Cato down to the 3rd option at center. However, I don't truely believe that this deal will ever happen.

    Here's another trade to think about.

    Houston sends KT/Collier/T-Mo to Toronto.

    Toronto sends MoPete/Montross to Houston.


    Toronto gets 3 young players with talent & could let all 3 walk when their contracts expire, if they choose to. Thus, reducing team salary.
     
  2. Yetti

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    When Nachbar gets going we should realise that we dont need a starting Small Forward . Thomas is indeed good enough to play this role sharing time with Nachbar. The only area of contention is that we have not settled upon the bachup to Mobley, at Shooting Guard. I dont wish to be the pork in the beef stew, but what if the Rox know that we are going to have difficulty getting Yao Ming over here. Then Bradley might have to be back up to Cato!
     
  3. R0ckets03

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    You must know very little about Moochies contract situation. The dude is getting paid a cool 24 mill and he is a backup pg. My motivation for dealing Moochie is because of his ridiculous contract. Hakeem's contract expires in two years, or maybe quicker if he agrees to a buyout?
     
  4. Yetti

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    All this talk about how great it would be to have M.Peterson instead of K.Thomas. Just look at their Career Stats, not much difference.

    Mo.P FG 43% 3pts 37.1% FT 73.6% RBS 3.4 Ast 1.8 Stl .95 TO 1.15

    K.T. FG 44.6% 3pts 24.8% FT 67.4% Rbs 6.3 Ast 1.5 STL .82 TO 1.7
     
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  5. NIKEstrad

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    I like Mo Pete's game. I also don't see really a comparison with Cat. Mo Pete is more like a Shandon Anderson with a shot, which is pretty good. I don't think he's on par with Cuttino shooting wise, and doesn't have Cat's 1st step (who does, this side of Allen Iverson?).

    With Carter and Murray probably starting, and Jefferies and possibly Dell Curry in the reserves, would that make MoPete tradeable?

    Bradley is interesting, but not worth KT.

    The Alvin Williams mention by someone earlier is also interesting. He's a bigger PG, with defense, and a high AST:TO ratio. The Raps also added Lindsey Hunter this summer.

    What about:

    KT/Moochie for Alvin Williams/Bradley?
     
  6. MacBeth

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    Ummm.1st off, your numbers are wrong.( Mo-Pete has not averaged .22 steals, for example) Secondly, Mo_pete has had significantly better seasons at each comparable level, ie better 1st season, better 2dn season, higher rated coming out of college, etc. If you even compare Mo-Pete's 2nd year with Kenny's brealout 3rd year, it's arguable that Peterson had a better year, given the lesser minutes but virtually identical scoring, better defense, etc...
     
  7. Truth

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    Sorry to bust your trade bubble, but Montross has already been traded to the Wizards for Chris Whitney.
     
  8. MacBeth

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    Don't think so...there WAS a rumour to this effect a couple of weeks back, but I think it was quashed by the revelation of Olajuwon's bad back. If this has been done today, then that is news to me.
     
  9. jello77

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    mo peterson for kt would be a steal. kt for micheal bradley...umm..id have to think that one over.

    we would be incredible with peterson. it would be crazy.
     
  10. Truth

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    My bad, I could have sworn I saw it on ESPN Bottomline.
     
  11. Yetti

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    MacBeth:- I obtained my stats from the NBA! Sorry corrected from .22 to .95/gm. Mo. P averaged 26.6mins/gm KT averaged 28.0mins/gm. Still there is very little between them !You just dont like KT.
     
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  12. MacBeth

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    You mixed up Peterson's steals/game and blocks/game, for one thing. Peterson has averaged just under 1 steal/game during his 2 year career.
     
  13. saleem

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    I totally agree with thacabbage.
    Mo-Pete is better than KT.If KT has slimmed down than it will be harder for him to play at the 4 spot.
    Getting Mo-Pete for KT would be great for us.
    But getting Bradley for him makes no sense at all.
    Bradley missed some games due to injuries and becuse he was not experienced enough to get in the rotation,
    If the Raptors are thinking of getting KT for him that shows Bradley isn't good enough to take minutes away from JYD.
    Mo-Pete can play at SG and SF and can either backup Carter or Murray or start ahead of Lamond.
    Chris Jeffries would be the odd man out but KT is worth more than him.
     
  14. Yetti

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    macBeth YOU DIDN'T READ MY POST CORRECTLY! I MADE THE CORRECTION. THERE WAS NO REASON FOR YOU TO RECORRECT ME, WHEN I ALREADY HAD CORRECTED MYSELF. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR CORRECTION WAS NOT, STRICTLY SPEAKING, STATISICALLY ACCURATE!
     
  15. Truth

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    ... LOL!!!
     
  16. NIKEstrad

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    Yetti-

    Macbeth posted at 3:11.
    You edited your post at 3:17.

    He posted his correction before you posted your edit by 6 minutes. He didn't "recorrect" you.
     
  17. Tonaaayyyy

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    lol dang... calm down peeps lol
     
  18. Another Brother

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    Here is a recent quote by Lenny Wilkins on the Murray, Peterson situation...

    To no surprise, Wilkens pronounced himself pleased with the deal that gave him a proven scorer in Lamond Murray and rid the team of Stewart, who couldn't even get himself in Wilkens' peripheral vision from his seat at the end of the bench.

    And the coach said the 6-7 Murray will be given every chance to unseat Morris Peterson in the starting lineup when camp begins.

    "When we go to camp, everything is open," said Wilkens. "You have to earn it, whether it's starting or coming off the bench."


    It doesn't sound like Lenny is that enamored with the play of Pete.
     
  19. MacBeth

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    Nah...that's just Wilken's conventional speech about opportunity, especially in the wake of acquiring a veteran. It's just coach-speak for approving a move made by your GM, and not letting anyone less than super-star players get complacent. Besides, Murray lead his team in scoring last year, and has never played with someone like Carter, so Peterson could end up coming off the bench without it being a condemnation of Peterson...As Jeff said, the three of them make a pretty leethal rotation, irrespective of which of the two forwards start.
     
  20. HeyDude

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    yetti,

    the arguement is not wether moPete is better than KT. The stats might be similar. The arguement is who can help the team more. When it comes to KT, he plays the same position as Mo and Eddie. Thats why he is the odd man out. You are not going to be able to trade Mo's big contract and there is no way we are trading Eddie. So that makes KT expendable. But still, he can't just be let go for crap. i mean the man can play.

    but when it comes to moPete, he plays a position the Rockets are the weakest at currently. Rice is not getting younger, and Nachbar is too young; MoPete would fit perfectly at the SF. Thats why i would love this trade.

    however, if MoPete can't play the SF, the trade wont happen anyways, since there is no sense in trading KT for a back up SG.
     

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