Well, in that trade, the question would be why would Toronto do it. Peterson and Bradley are both very quality young players. I imagine we could get one of them in a deal for KT, but asking for both is a little much, unless you're willing to throw in a future first round pick (protected) or such.
Second thoughts... I think we should wait for this trade to happen or any trade...maybe look through changes during January... I think we can get a better deal from Kenny Thomas... there are better SG's that Rockets can get rather then Mo Pete.. we dont have to jump on pete..
From us? (the pick) Bradley averaged 4.5 minutes and 1.1ppg, o.9rpg and 0.1apg. Mo Pete is nice, but what has Bradley shown? Are you seeing him as a better prospect than Collier? Admittedly Jason hasn't shown much.
Name one. First of all, I'm still not sold that the Rockets target is Peterson. If the Rockets get a true backup SG, then that greatly reduces Moochie's role, and I'm not sure if Rudy is ready to do that. I still think the target may be Bradley, since they have been very interested in him in the past. That being said, some folks are really overestimating KT's value. He's a solid 14/7 power forward (on a bad team) who can take it off the dribble and has above average quickness. He's not quite a dime a dozen, but he's far from some rare commodity. Mo Pete is a great shooter, and he's also very clutch, experienced, and has the ability to create some off the dribble. There's some simularities between him and a younger Cuttino Mobley, to tell you the truth. If the goal is a backup SG (and I'm not sold that it is), to think that KT is going to get you much more than Mo Peterson is a little silly.
Yeah, from us. Bradley hasn't shown much, but that's a poor argument for rookies at this stage. Very few rookies, even the top ones like Kwame Brown, contribute much in their rookie seasons. When you consider that Bradley played on a team with an incredibly deep frontcourt, you can't really hold his stats against him. You just have to go by how you scouted him before that draft, and how the organization thinks of his talent. The Rockets gave a lot of consideration to taking him had they kept the 13th pick, and were interested in him for Hakeem last summer. Here's a profile of him from nbadraft.net: Strengths: Has very good offensive skills. Great feel for the game. Excellent size for the PF position. Fundamentally sound, crafty player who uses his strength well. Passes well. Can get out and run the floor. Shoots well from the field, can hit the college 3 if open. In the same article, they rated his post skills a 10. http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/michaelbradley.htm
How tall is Mo Pete, really? He's listed as 6'7". Anyone know if he is? For some reason I'm thinking he's not.
So the idea of the trade would be that we get an athletic swingman who can back up Cat, provide some D, and depth at SF while Boki develops, locked up for a few years at a good contract plus a decent prospect at PF. The alleged log-jam at PF is broken. Interesting.
1) I think that MoPete has much more trade value than Kenny. I have always thought that people on this board overrate his trade value. 2) I don't quite agree with the MoPete/Cuttino comparison...Peterson is much bigger, a much better shooter at this stage than Cat was, and is already a better defender. On the other side, while he has a pretty good 1st step for his size, it is nowhere near Cat's, and his ball handling skills aren't on a par with Mobley at a young age... 3) I agree that Bradley is the most likely return.
If we did it I would prefer my scenario of Mo Pete/Bradley for KT/Collier. That would be closer to fair value, IMO. (from what I've heard so far) KT would tear it up in the East.
Toronto has some serious cap issues. Trading Mo Pete/Bradley for KT/Collier would give them two contracts ending after this season. This trade seems to make sense, but somehow I think the Rockets would be mistaken to do it.
Alvin Williams is Cuttino's best friend....maybe there's a chance in hell that's who we'll get back. Maybe it's a package deal and Mooch will be included too (please oh please! )
Further on the MoPete/Kenny trade value comparisons... MoPete played on an NCAA championship team, was conceded to slip in the draft where the Raptors picked him up in the late 1st round, and finished amongst the contenders for Rookie of the Year. This past season was his second year, and his numbers were... 14.0 ppg, 3.50 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.16 spg, .438 fg%, .364 3pt %, in 31.6 mpg. Kenny's 2nd year numbers were 7.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.0 apg, .443 fg%, .272 3pt %, in 24.6 mpg. Measured at the same level of development, it would seem clear that Peterson showed more promise in his 2nd year than did Kenny, and he also had the better of the two respective rookie campaigns....
I'm not sure why you guys think the Raptors would be in a hurry to unload Peterson for Thomas. A guard/forward rotation of Peterson, Carter and Murray is tremendous. It fills all their holes and should create ample time for everyone. Bradley makes a lot more sense in terms equity for Thomas even though I'll be the first to admit that they are overstocked at guard and understocked at forward. That also makes a deal between the two teams sensible. Personally, I'd love that deal. Peterson would be the perfect swingman for the Rockets. He's like Shandon Anderson with offense and that would fit us tremendously well.
I just can't see it for Bradley. We need to win this year and KT is a valuable ingredient. Mo Pete would be value for value. Kenny had a hell of a year last season. He may not be through improving. Mo Pete would give us what we've been missing at SG. A proven player as a backup with size and some D. He would plug a lot of holes this year and give Rudy even more flexibility with the lineup. Maybe I'm being convinced.
wasnt pete supposed to be one of the better defenders in college? also, can he play SF? if so, it would be a great deal for the Rockets. but if he cant play SF it wont make sense, since we still have Mooch, and that means the 3 guard offense.
ESPN lists him as a small forward. He is 6-7 and weighs 215. A little on the small side, but not by much. I think its a pretty even trade. We would be trading a pretty good power forward for a pretty good small forward. Both are young and relatively cheap. Only if we can convince Toronto to take Moochie for Hakeem's rights. That would be perfect.
