During the Playoffs, You will see Hawk shine, That is where utility players such and Hawk make huge Contrubutions. I would love to see him get more minutes because he gives you everything he has for all the mins. he plays.
Just out of curiosity, how many games did he play 48 minutes? I guess Cato is averaging 57 rebounds per 48 minutes lately ? If you are going to attack my argument, have a clue please.
On your 1st point, its not a huge assumption given the situation. You have a guy who is GUARANTEED to make 50 million unless he goes out of his way to f*** it up. One of the ways he can f*** it up is to get banned from the league for doing drugs. When a guy weighs his options and decides to risk 50 million for a quickie high, I think its safe to say he has a problem. Labeling him a chronic user is pretty much spot on. On your second point..dopn't embarass yourself by insinuating that Mo can play defense and has the ability to alter the games of KG, Duncan et al.
Uhm, no, do you understand the meaning of "chronic"? Chronic user would mean he smokes all the time and needs it in his system at all times. It is quite different than being indifferent to a league policy, or showing wishful thinking that you won't get caught/impacted, if you smoke every now or then. Unless you are his dealer, if he has one, I am confident you have absolutely no concrete knowledge about whether he is chronic or not. It is one thing to speculate and acknowledge you are speculating in tone and words, but instead you come off like a 2-bit fan making gross (and confident in your own mind) generalizations about something you know nothing about.
Ummm..ok...so i guess he is just unlucky. There is no speculation here people...HE GOT CAUGHT!!!!! False positive? I think not. I suppose he was experimenting when he got tested by the league. Makes sense . Another thing, unless he grows the weed in his backyard, he probably does have a dealer that he uses either directly or indirectly...unless of course 7-11 keeps some for sale next to the lotto tickets. One thing you are right about is that I know nothing about chronic pot smoking. However, I DO know that if I was handed a 50 million dollar contract and told not to smoke pot or else I'd lose it, it would take a millisecond to understand that I cannot smoke anymore pot. Unless of course I knew I was a chronic user and couldnt live without it.
I needed to reply from this early post by GRAM it never surprises me how f*ckin stupid some people are. mo-tay is trying to recover from not playing for a real long time. alot of basketball is confidence, and that is not there. mo had 5 pts, 5 rebounds and 2 steals and 2 assists in limited minutes. he is hustleing out there. that is a start, and he will do better once his confidence gets back. to make assertions on his personal life is just wrong. i guess i can make the assumption that those of you bashing mo-tay are worthless pieces of ****..... but that would be wrong of me. Gram, Are you kidding me, his confidence? He is a professional basketball player getting paid a boat load of money. He played ball all summer long, he has played ball his whole life, how can he not have confidence. Grant Hill isnt having any trouble with his confidence and he has missed way more time than MoT. Atleast he is hustling? thats the least he can do, hell I can go out there and hustle. You are very sensitive about MoT, why?
You're not banned from the league for a second violation. No such risk. He's at some level of risk now, though, and therefore he hasn't been caught in over a year. Again, if you have one reference to a player that was banned after merely two times for pot, let me know. On the defense point, I guess it was just all one huge coincidence that they all happened to have below average stats (and field goal percentages) against the Rockets.
I believe Hill is struggling with his confidence a whole lot this year. He just happens to have Tracy McGrady to take the spotlight off of his erratic play. Here in Orlando, its a prevailing thought on Hill.
(I wanted to post in this thread a couple of days ago after the trade went down, but I had the hardest time pushing my post through. Anybody have the same problem?) First of all, good luck KT! You will be missed. As for the deal, I like it. The Rocks finally have some size in the backcourt, and an answer for the Bryants and Finleys of the West. Posey's young, athletic, cheap, and doesn't need the ball to contribute, he should be a great fit. Hate to lose KT, but 'to get something you have to give something.'
Please tell me you are joking. So using your logic, it is ok that he got caught twice (let me guess, you probably think those were the only 2 times he smoked right? ) since you arent at risk of being banned for just testing positive twice. The only thing you said that made any sense was that he hasn't been caught in over a year.
Actually, if you remember, I told you this past Summer that I thought Cato would like it better off the bench. You didn't listen. ANyway, in all seriousness, he never really seemed to want to start - too much pressure or something. Now he is an outstanding backup and temporary starter when needed.
No, you can't ever be banned from the NBA for using pot regardless of how many time you test positive for it. You get 5 game suspensions each time after a certain number of positive tests I believe. Why are you flippin out over pot and MoT? Do you think Mo, Odom, Stoudimire, and Wallace are the only players that use it? Don't be so naive. You could easily assume at least 50% of the NBA players do, they just don't get caught. Hell Charles Oakley claimed that 85% of NBA players use it, although he was probably exagerrating a bit.
Correct...but this wasn't the crux of mine and Cat's argument....however, instead of defending a player who has yet to produce anything but a positive mar1juana test, he decided to tell me how he only got caught twice...thus my response.
If you just ignore NJRocket, maybe he'll start a rant in the hangout forum about how the only problem with the drug war is that we just don't incarcerate enough people yet for it to be effective.
The real problem with why MoT has struggled, he came in out of shape. Lets be honest he spent all last year smoking it up and then pigging out. He could have watched is diet, but he didnt. He spent time getting in shape, which of course he would have to do, but the focus was on loosing the weight. I hope he can return to his old self, he is still young so there is a chance. The problem is that he is getting his money regardless. Kenny T came in to camp in better shape every year because he hasnt gotten his contract yet. This year will determine what MoT is all about. I like what he does offensively, and he can be a nice high post threat with his the shooting range that he has shown in the past. So we will see what happens.
Go ahead...ignore me...just like you ignore the fact that Mo T has been a dissapointment since he got to Houston..then became a bigger dissapointment after we decided to be loyal to him and not hurt his feelings by talking to Webber. Read the thread genius...my rant on Mo has more to do with his lack of productivity than it does with his drug habits. Also...do you MoT supporters really think we would have traded KT if Mo's contract wasn't an issue? Mo T would have been out of here faster than he could roll a joint if he wasn't making so much money. Then again, perhaps Philly wouldnt have done the deal if it was Mo in stead of KT.
Go ahead...ignore me...just like you ignore the fact that Mo T has been a dissapointment since he got to Houston..then became a bigger dissapointment after we decided to be loyal to him and not hurt his feelings by talking to Webber. Read the thread genius...my rant on Mo has more to do with his lack of productivity than it does with his drug habits. Also...do you MoT supporters really think we would have traded KT if Mo's contract wasn't an issue? From what you guys say, Mo and KT are of similar ability. If that were the case, Mo T would have been out of here faster than he could roll a joint if he wasn't making so much money. Then again, perhaps Philly wouldnt have done the deal if it was Mo in stead of KT.
NJRocket, I like to read your posts. But with regards to Mo Taylor, I think you have already conveyed your point by now. Thanks.
