Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

You are a funny man.

 

Like the Republicans take the extreme position of hanging black people from trees is G*d’s will.

Overstate much?

 

You didn't even know Ellison has two accusers and you're attempting to speak authoritatively on the subject? Good grief.

Ellison has been accused by two different women of domestic violence.

Karen Monahan claims Ellison committed domestic violence against her, her son claims he saw a video of it.

Amy Alexander claims in a separate incident Ellison committed domestic violence against her.

Accusations, with similar levels of evidentiary support, were taken as gospel by many on the left. These accusations launched a national hysteria against Brett Kavanaugh of epic proportions. We're talking, GOP congressman being run out of public spaces, restaurants, the halls of Congress awash in a sea hysterical protesters, chants of #WeBelieveSurvivors ringing out everywhere across Washington. Denunciations of the strongest kind being thrown down my Democratic members of Congress.

Then we get to Ellison, a very prominent member of the DNC and Democratic establishment who has been accused by two women of domestic violence. *crickets*. So, I'll ask again, where is the outrage? Where is the #WeBelieveSurvivors? Where is the movement?

I haven't seen the sea of protesters, I haven't seen the outrage, I haven't seen the denunciations, I haven't seen the chants.

Dr. Fords word is enough but Karen Monahans isn't? Amy Alexanders isn't? Young Mr. Monahans isn't?

I hadn't even heard about it until I was watching Vice News Tonight last night. The hypocrisy of it astounded me.

It's fairly obvious, It's #WeBelieveSurvivors unequivocally when it's politically advantageous and when it's not, well, let's just do our best to let the storm pass over or if we have nothing to lose politically (Al Franken) we can toss him off the side.

 

Keep running from the point. I know the hypocrisy of the situation is going to be hard for you to justify and reconcile.

 

Do you think you are ignoring other factors such as for Kavanaugh it was basically a job interview for a lifetime appointment for one of the most important positions in the United States?

 

So now the excuse is Ellison isn't important enough? Ha, I figured we'd get there.

 

No, I'm stating that the loudness of protest is equivalent to the gravitas of the position. Also, removing someone from office is quite different than the interview when they don't have the job yet .

 

There was a national hysteria surrounding Kavanaugh and the accusations against him. The whole #WeBelieveSurvivors movement was launched.

As far as I can tell, there is no #WeBelieveSurvivors movement in regards to Ellison. I don't know of any womens movements/organizations protesting him.

That's the whole point.

It's all about red/blue not right/wrong.

It's all politics.

 

Yes a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land is going to be political. But again, the loudness is directly correlated to the gravitas of a lifetime Supreme Court appointment vs a temporary 2 year term US rep, 1 of 435 btw.

For Ellison, if his constituents bekiebe the allegations are seriise enough he can be voted out at maximum within 2 years. You can't do anything about Brett once he's been nominated .

 

You fail to grasp my point I think.

Of course the SC nomination is political.

What I was saying was the use of the #WeBelieveSurvivors movement was political. Its all up in arms for accusations against a prominent Republican but is nonexistent for a prominent Democrat.

It was never about the women. It was about using the guise of standing up for women as a political cudgel. Once that cudgel could be turned against Ellison, suddenly its not there.

 

Ellison has a two year term limit. If his constituents believe the allegations are credible, they can chose to vote him out within two years max.

You can't do that with a Supreme Court nominee once it passes through. It's done. It's over and it effects the next 4 decades possibly. Of course people are going to be more vocal.

 

I am asking what you think. Do you think any SCOTUS ruling is "settled law" which should never be overturned by future arguments that come before the court?

 

Meh, never claimed to be an expert, and I didn’t think the other accuser has been out in the forefront by her declining interviews. Ellison isn’t going to influence the fabric of American society like a scotus appointment.

I don’t see how Ellison as a politician influences my life so directly for me to be outraged at two accusers who should by rights file police reports and spark investigations. I would, however, be disgusted if the party protected him while tangible proof is out there. I think Kavanaugh got a bum rap for having his entire life out in the open, but the fact republicans chose someone so young for the position meant that he’s likely there to stay for a long, long, long time.

“Emotional abuse” is an even greyer ground for any party to tackle. It’s not like either victim showed up with bruises and lived a terrified life. Both accusers have had enough doubt cast upon them that without concrete proof, what more can authorities do?

Kavanaugh was not elected by his peers nor the American people, don’t you see how off your perception of the outrage some people are harboring?

But I can see an inkling of your point if his constituents re-elect him or should the video surface, he retains his seat. After all, Ellison represents a district. Kavanaugh rules over the laws Ellison helps craft for the rest of his life, which impacts these frothy mobs and crazy women who love their abortions.

Go figure.

 

So the Roe decision is settled law in your opinion. Does that apply to just the Roe decision? Is the Citizens United decision that allows corporate money into politics now settled law that should never be overturned by any case coming before the court? What about the Heller decision reaffirming the 2nd Amendment?

 

What are you talking about? I havent called for anything. All I’m doing is pointing out the hypocrisy of the Democrats for taking such a hard ass stance with Kavanaugh and his accusations and then doing nothing when a very similar situation is taking place with Keith Ellison.

 

So we were explaining how it isn't a similar situation .

 

Ha, ok, sure it isn’t.