Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

Yes, then continued to try and compromise with the losing party numerous times to the continual groaning to everyone left of him.

You couldn't name a single...not a SINGLE time Trump tried to compromise with the minority party. In fact, he calls them obstructionist when they don't even have the power to be that, implies they are evil time and time again, just recently saying that they are working with MS-13 and then blames them for everything he and his party can't pass...even though we had democrats even confirming Gorsuch lol and watch as some confirm Kavanaugh...but they'll get nothing for it, you'll still say they aren't compromising enough because you are a radical that believes in a one party rule system.

Yet nary a peep from Bobby about the divisiveness and yet again you've ignored the fact that Obama's healthcare bill was a compromise bill constructed by both GOP and DNC members. But yeah, i'm done here, i have no issue responding to you but I realize like after 2-3 times per issue you just sort of repeat the same things all while ignoring actual facts I put out at you. You didn't even attempt to counter the point about Obama compromising, you just went back to some quote he said instead of his actual actions. With Trump, his actions match his quotes, unfortunately.

Yep. Trump is the first president to really attack the opposing party like this and make them out to be actual enemies of the state. It's entirely dangerous rhetoric and usually what authoritarians do as they try to grab more power. You demonize your enemy so that you can later justify diminishing their power into irrelevance or just plainly getting rid of them.

 

It's sad the lengths people will go to in order to defend indefensible actions by those in their tribe. The "Ignore what he said, he really was trying to compromise, I promise" talk isn't supposed to make people laugh....but that's all it really does. You are just so incredibly blinded by tribalism that you can't help yourself.....then again after spending part of the day trying to convince everyone that socialists aren't socialists I guess I shouldn't have expected much.

 

Nixon did it all the time. Trump is basically Nixon, but dumb.

 

It's amazing the lengths you go to ignore the actual point because it proves you wrong. Like the fact that he produced a bill that was worked on by both parties, thus, he actually REALLY did try to compromise...all while you do the same thing and again, never condemn Trump for anything at all...and..you were once a never Trumper! Such principles. You even said that people that supported him were likely racists...then flipped out on people that called his supporters racists once he took office. This is the authoritarian right inside of you, you bow down to your party leader even if literally months before you thought he was the destruction of your party and anti-american and promoted racism.


I mean, maybe you could speak from the moral high ground if you denounced the Trump administration for demonizing liberals, but since you don't and never have, you can't.

 

True, I guess he just slipped my mind. Hopefully, Trump suffers the same fate as Nixon...but like...sooner. Next week would be nice or any time before they could confirm this judge.

 

"Stupid Watergate", as it's been called.

 

He was not my first choice but was the most qualified one for the position. I believe he will be confirmed with bi-partisan support once it comes to an actual vote. Until they vote up/down the rhetoric will be cringe worthy.

 

Define BiPArtisan
3 Demo votes won't be bipartisan

Then again . . the Demos are spineless bastards so they may topple like dominoes

Rocket River

 

???? any votes from people with a D next to their name is in fact bi-partisan. You do realize if people from two parties vote for something, that is in fact bi-partisan support. While it is not exactly the same thing as say half of the Democrats supporting it or unanimous support, if some people from both parties vote for something and their affirmative vote is in the majority, it is bi-partisan. It is much different than say, Obamacare, which was passed with zero Republican support.

 

You need more than an EXTREME Minority of Demo votes to be BiPartisan support
I mean . . technically but it is not a mandate or something

51% is technically a majority but one would not say strong support

Rocket River

 

Yes, that would be bi-partisan opposition which I am fine with.

The court has been right leaning for some time now. I do not believe you will see any major changes.

 

Agreed, the big reason why so many on the left are so upset is that this shatters their dreams of ripping up the constitution when it comes to eliminating the 2nd amendment and in a few other areas. The fact that the constitution will be upheld really chafes some on the authoritarian left because they've always viewed the constitution as something to be overcome, not something to abide by.

Earlier in this thread you had someone arguing that Obamacare was a "bi partisan compromise" because there was one token Republican allowed to sit in on discussions and not allowed to speak till they quit....What standard do you want to set?

 

Right-LEANING is the keyword here.

Kennedy was socially a moderate.

 

Someone does not know their recent history...no surprise there!

 

Nah... Trump is more Huey Long crossed with Benito Mussolini than Richard Nixon.

Trump is an authoritarian populist that happened to be in the right place and at the right time to become President.

Trump isn't stupid, he understands people and their impulses very well.

His policies and his motivations are very suspect, but he has an ability and intelligence to engage people.

 

You want an example of Trump attempting to compromise? How bout generously offering amnesty and a pathway to citizenship for up to 2.1 million illegal aliens in his immigration bill? That's far, far more than the number of DACA recipients (~700,000). These are people here illegally and they have no right to be here at all. Yet, Trump offered them amnesty, which they do not deserve. In return, he was seeking a wall to finally get control of our border, and common sense reforms centered around a merit approach, which is the way the smart countries around the world admit immigrants.

He didn't have to do that and he caught heat from many in base. But he did it. And Schumer, Pelosi, and the democrats rejected it outright. Why? Because they care more about preserving their continuous stream of anchor babies than they do about helping the DACA illegals.

Trump is far more lenient than I would be. Since DACA is formally terminated, and given the Democrats rebuff of his compromise offers, I would immediately start deporting every single one of them as soon as their authorization runs out.

 

Trump told us that Mexico would pay for the wall. He doesn't need Congress to do anything. Furthermore, Congress isn't in the control of the Democrats.