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Kendrick Perkins can't handle Yao's girth and soft touch

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Tom Bombadillo, Sep 8, 2010.

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  1. nolimitnp

    nolimitnp Member

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    How many people can? Maybe Dwight Howard, but historically Yao's numbers are better head to head. Shaq in his heyday would've been fun to watch. A man of Yao's size should not be so skilled, but it really is a joy to watch for us, isn't it? Its really not fair to other teams, which I think is one reason he gets so many ridiculous foul calls. Over his career his should probably average 2-3 more foul shot attempts per game. But since he is so deadly accurate, refs are reluctant to call them.
     
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    I see the name Swoly-D alot. Who is that? :confused:
     
  3. Tom Bombadillo

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    The Rocket's legend Charles Oakley.

    He always made bad jokes...

    He was swole, and he could play D...

    Swoly D
     
  4. DudeWah

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    I think you're a bit confused. Historically, traditional centers such as Perkins/Howard have been eaten alive by Yao Ming. You just can't play behind him and hope your size and strength will over power him. It just wont. He's too big and strong. Like Perkins said, his shooting touch makes him even more dangerous. The only way to effectively guard Yao is fronting. There really is no alternative. Ask Joel Pryzbilla. Yao absolutely destroyed him in the beginning of that Portland series. Later on Yao was so much less effective because they focused on early doubles and Pryzbilla was fronting him like mad.
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    Additionally, Yao not working in the high post has nothing to do with his shot. It's because: 1) he's gigantic and it's hard for him to move around on the high post like Webber/Divac/Miller. 2) Yao's greatest strength is to bang down low. It makes little sense to play him in the high post. Adelman realized that pretty quickly
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    And..If you seriously think Chuck Hayes has a good chance at guarding Yao, you're delusional. Like seriously. There's absolutely no way. You do understand that Yao is a foot taller than him, right? That's just a basic understanding of basketball right there. Hayes would probably strip him a few times like the poster you responded to said. However, Yao would absolutely dominate that match up. Chuck could not stop him from getting position. And no, he couldn't get to the ball when Yao caught it above his head and turned for a jump hook or turn around jumper. Something he is reallllly good at btw.
     
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    Great post. I didn't even bother to respond to the quoted post, but this pretty much lays it out perfectly...
     
  6. Someguy1229

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    It's great to hear KP has respect for Yao.
     
  7. Al Capone

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    Thread title sounds like softcore gay p*rn.
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    He doesn't normally post in GARM.

    But when he does he always uses smileys.
     
  9. nolimitation

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    He's probably basing his knowledge on that recent Yao workout video. Yao is not even basketball shape yet.
     
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    Man if Yao goes down with another injury I would love to have Perkins signed with us.
     
  11. albuster

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    The only way to really stop Yao is with the help of refs. No way any center of any size in the NBA has a chance. Many of them have admitted this fact themselves. When the refs allow opposing players to commit the most brazen fouls against Yao then they have a chance. :(
     
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    Nice title. LOL

    On Perkins: Game recognize game.
     
  13. adammendoza4

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    Good to see yao being respected on his skill
     
  14. roslolian

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    KP isn't a traditional center...at least when you say traditional you mean the long big man that's basically your average center.

    Yao Ming's dominance over these types of big men have already been noted and one of the reasons why I think a healthy Yao Ming is the best center in the league. Guys like DH, Tyson Chandler, Przybilla...Yao eats these guys for lunch.

    However KP isn't your traditional big man, as I already said he's a bit on the girthy side and doesn't really rely on either his length or his height. He plays a lot like Chuck Hayes, using the weight of his body to basically nudge people out of the way. Yao Ming isn't Shaq. He's like a much larger DH, he has a high center of gravity and it allows him to get pushed around by much heavier men.

    Its funny you say that mobility is Yao Ming's main issue when the examples you bring up are Brad Miller and Vlade Divac. So when you say Vlade Divac and Brad Miller the first thing that comes to your mind is unsurpassed agility and mobility? C'mon man, those guys have knees much creakier than Yao's!

    As to your second point, Part of RA's reasoning for putting Yao on the high post are:
    1) Artest did his damage in the post
    2) RA wanted less stress on Yao's body

    Unlike what you claimed it looked great in theory because Yao had good passing ability and a nice shot. However Yao lacked the fluidity Divac and Miller had, and IMHO his shot was just too slow and mechanical for him to consistently face his opponent in the high post.

    Uhh Chuck Hayes is 6'6. Don't you think most of his opponents are much taller than him? Yet why do we consider CH to be a really good post defender, when he's defending 7'1 guys? Post D is more than just height. To get position you actually need force, and CH"s huge mass/butt allows him to use gravity to his advantage. Of course Hayes won't be able to stop the turnaround jumper. However if he can prevent Yao from getting position, Yao will have to launch that jumper far from his comfort zone. In fact, since he's so small Hayes could probably "nudge" Yao to disrupt his shot when he does his turaround J, and the refs would allow it every time.

    Of course Yao would win the matchup...well duh he's like the 20M center. however if he went at CH for the whole game expect Yao to be winded and drained after the 3rd quarter or so, and in that sense Hayes would have already done his job (i.e. "stop" Yao Ming).
     
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    OK, he'll "stop" Yao Ming.
     
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    Well considering Hayes is making 2M and Yao is making 18M this year I'd say "stopping" him is pretty good value.
     
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    its nice hearing Baby Shaq give props to Yao

    saw him play a couple of times when he was at Ozen..I'm glad he's doing well in the pros.
     
  18. thedreamsteam

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    Gloria James can.
     
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    LOL. As long as Chuck doesn't strip the ball away from Yao, his only defense is hoping for a Yao hook shot miss. Chuck shouldn't even dream of blocking Yao unless he's coming from blind side.
     
  20. johnstarks

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    Chuck Hayes is a great positional post player. He defends by getting good position and keeping the guy he's guarding out of their spot using his strength and quick feet, but he is not a shot blocker by any means. Chuck doesn't bother his shot at all. I don't know if you play ball, but if you do, think about it like this. Let's say you're 6 ft and you're guarding a guy who is 6'11". There is no way you are going to block the 6'11" guy if you're the strong side defender. The only way a 6ft guy blocks the 6'11" guy is coming from behind on a well-timed swat. The short guy that gives up that much height never blocks the tall guy in the post. If you don't believe me, try the same thing with someone just 6" taller than you at the gym.
     

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